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Old 05-14-2008, 06:24 PM
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Great! Now we can get moving! So you believe that the Latter-day Saints follow Christ more fully than the Roman Catholics? That's very nice of you. It kind of surprises me that you'd say that, though. Are you just basing that opinion on the Latter-day Saints and Catholics you've met online, or on those you've known personally?

I am basing it on doctrine as i always have. as you can see in my signature.

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You're also saying, I guess, that we're long-suffering. I'd have to agree with you there. I don't actually know the degree to which the world's Roman Catholics have suffered, when it comes to suffering, we Latter-day Saints can out-suffer the best of them! Mostly, though, our persecution is not at the hands of our Catholic brothers and sisters.
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" The servant is not greater than his master, if i was persecuted, so will you"

Tell me, who fits here better the Mormons or the Catholics?



Katspur, I think you missed this, well any of the LDS can answer this ...
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Old 05-14-2008, 06:40 PM
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Well, back to the thread topic. I will continue to feel a friendship with the Catholics as fellow Christians. And I will continue to offer and be available if they want to learn more about my religion. And it happens. I know several former Catholics in my own congregation. When my sons were full-time missionaries, they all agreed that the Catholics were the most receptive.

Plus Catholics can understand how a religion can claim to be the only correct religion without meaning it to be an offense to the others.
2 Corinthians 6:14

[ Do Not Be Yoked With Unbelievers ] Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

How are able to manifest your love of God, when you don't follow the verse above?



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P.S. Of course I agree with Titus 1: 9 It tells us to hold fast to the faithful word, and to exhort and convince with sound doctrine. What's not to agree with? Our doctrine is very sound. This applies to the already converted as well as the non-believer. But you cannot convince anyone until they are ready to listen and are receptive to the Holy Ghost. You know that.

Wrong, it goes both ways.... those who are liers and those who agree with liers are hypocirtes!!!

JOHN 8:42-46

Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me. Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say.

so? why is Jesus language unclear to you?


You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

When catholic doctrine stated there is not salvation outside the catholic church, were they lieing?

to whom do liers belong? see the verse above for reference


Jesus said:


Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

He who belongs to God hears what he says.

and he said " God judges to those who are the outside and God will show mercy to whomeever he wants and he desires to save all men.

any one who will tell me otherwise, is a lier and who ever agrees to a lie is a hyporcite!!!

and where do liers and hyprocites belong according to christ? their father the devil!
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Matt. 7: 1-3 "Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
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Luke 18: 10-14
"Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted."
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The verses i quoted are not mine... i did not write the gospel of John, and John was not quoting me.

He was quoting Christs. and whose so ever reject his words, rejects him and the one that sent him.

Good luck!
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The verses i quoted are not mine... i did not write the gospel of John, and John was not quoting me.

He was quoting Christs. and whose so ever reject his words, rejects him and the one that sent him.

Good luck!
The verses I quoted are not mine either.
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The verses I quoted are not mine either.

They do not apply to me, and you seem to direct it towards me.

I did not judge anyone, it was the words of Christ that did.

I am not being concieted or being self righteous like the pharisee. i have always declared i am nothing, i am like a mist in the mornng, a dust on the floor. NOTHING. I do not seek to please men.


I am trying to show the truth. and the truth is, a doctrine that will say that there is no salvation outside their church is a lie a big LIE.

Do i sin when i qouted Jesus saying they are from their father the devil, the devil who has no truth in him?

My conscience is clear, for i did not speak for my self.

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Catholics are far from unbelievers

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When catholic doctrine stated there is not salvation outside the catholic church, were they lieing?
No. As has been pointed out, it also doesn't mean what you said it meant.

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I am trying to show the truth. and the truth is, a doctrine that will say that there is no salvation outside their church is a lie a big LIE.
No it isn't
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