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Old 05-13-2008, 04:35 AM
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Like I have said before, no book can be perfect because it frames the truth, if you want to call it that, into a fixed point in time and history and holds the believer from experiencing what is real. Therefore, the person who holds that truth is to be found in that book has bound themselves in much the same manner. What can be substantiated? What can be called truth? The words of a book? Should not truth be held to a higher standard? All of this is the cause of the confusion of mankind...We tend to minimize truth and turn it into something far-off and unbelievable.
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I'm not trying to start and arguement since we've already had our discussion. I also apologize for going off topic again.

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He also stuck his head in the hat when he was digging for buried treasure. HHHMMMMM.....
You've never dug for buried treasure?!
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Old 05-13-2008, 12:28 PM
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I'm not trying to start and arguement since we've already had our discussion. I also apologize for going off topic again.



You've never dug for buried treasure?!


Yes I have ( when I was a kid).

I just think its strange that he used the same " looking glass in a top hat" to look for the treasure.

Then God gives him " seer stones" that he puts in the same top hat and reads " golden plates".

Why would God use the same " scam" he was arrested for to now restore the gospel and the church? To me it seems Smith at least could of came up with something original. Just my thoughts...


I know its off topic , but i was just responding to your question. We could start a new thread if you would like.
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I know its off topic , but i was just responding to your question. We could start a new thread if you would like.
I was just curious. I looked for treasure when I was a kid too. Hehehe. I'm not too interested in starting a new topic about it. Maybe some other LDS do, but I've never really been interested in that topic. Besides I'm getting off work and I'm only online at work. It keeps me from becoming an RF Addict.
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the Bible is perfectly what it is.
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Like I have said before, no book can be perfect because it frames the truth, if you want to call it that, into a fixed point in time and history and holds the believer from experiencing what is real. Therefore, the person who holds that truth is to be found in that book has bound themselves in much the same manner.
A great description of what religions have done to humanity.

Experience briddled by the ignorance of simple books trying to pin down 'truth.'

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What can be substantiated?
Physical data.
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What can be called truth?
Empirical data.

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The words of a book?
If grounded in physical fact that mirrors experience. i.e... dejavu...... prophecy is entangled energy (displaces time).

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Should not truth be held to a higher standard?
Such that personal beliefs cannot be the guide to truth; 'witness only what is true'

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All of this is the cause of the confusion of mankind...
And the cause of secularizations, conflicts and even internal rebellion (see the children)

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We tend to minimize truth and turn it into something far-off and unbelievable.
See dark matter, dark energy........ or a 'rapture,' all man created ideas to describe phenomena unanswered by empirical evidence; fibs!
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If you believe there is a perfect Bible out there available which version is it?

Or is it a mix of all the versions?
a perfect bible would be the unaltered word of God. since the bible says in itself (jeremiah 8:7-9) that it has been altered, it cannot be perfect. but it is indeed a good book, except the parts from paul or his disciples.
i would say a version with the original hebrew alongside the english is better than the typical christian translations. the jewish translations seem to get deeper into what is really said in the tanakh, whereas the christian translations tend to take many words and translate them the same when they do not have the same meaning.

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a perfect bible would be the unaltered word of God. since the bible says in itself (jeremiah 8:7-9) that it has been altered, it cannot be perfect. but it is indeed a good book, except the parts from paul or his disciples.
i would say a version with the original hebrew alongside the english is better than the typical christian translations. the jewish translations seem to get deeper into what is really said in the tanakh, whereas the christian translations tend to take many words and translate them the same when they do not have the same meaning.

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seems commnon sense would share that every word ever written was by a man/women.

So for a perfect book to be located then maybe an assembly of knowledge covering the history of time, leading to absolute truth combining the religions with the sciences, would literally be from God as all the contributers are also from God;

a book of true understanding from the evolution of knowledge;

a perfect bible
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