His Life or His death? (Christ, charity)

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by sandy whitelinger

Could you please show the scriptures where it teaches how to live to gain entrance into heaven.

Are you suggesting all you have to do is believe Jesus is the Son of God and then die to get into Heaven?

[Dunemeister]

Originally Posted by sandy whitelinger

Is it the life of Christ that saves man or His death?

His death and resurrected life are inseperable as far as salvation is concerned. Take away one or the other and salvation is undone.

[DallasApple]

For me it was his life...and HIs death was evidence of how serious he was about His life and teachings.....the Christ suffered over how he lived His life..His message in a nut shell was love..then He was treated in a cruel unloving and brutal way..but he never wavered from his message.

Love

Dallas

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by sandy whitelinger

I'm attempting to move a bunny trail to a new thread.

Is it the life of Christ that saves man or His death?

Neither one does, in and of itself. His life certainly provides us with an example of what God expects of us. His atoning sacrifice in Gethsamane and on Calvary was what made it possible for us to be redeemed of our sins. But without His resurrection, neither His life nor His death would have ultimately made any difference.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by mball1297

Are you suggesting all you have to do is believe Jesus is the Son of God and then die to get into Heaven?

Actually, you don't even need to believe. You just need to die.

[The Seeker]

Originally Posted by mball1297

Are you suggesting all you have to do is believe Jesus is the Son of God and then die to get into Heaven?

I'm no expert on the scriptures, but I do believe that, according to scripture, you only need to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior in order to get into Heaven. However, if that is the case I don't see why he spent so much time teaching us how to live.

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by The Seeker

I'm no expert on the scriptures, but I do believe that, according to scripture, you only need to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior in order to get into Heaven. However, if that is the case I don't see why he spent so much time teaching us how to live.

But then the question is "What does it mean to accept him as my savior?" I assume that to do that I need to act like him as much as I can. It would seem kind of stupid for me to "accept" him as my savior and go around treating people like crap. So, I would think that accepting him would mean following the example he set with his life.

[The Seeker]

Originally Posted by mball1297

But then the question is "What does it mean to accept him as my savior?" I assume that to do that I need to act like him as much as I can. It would seem kind of stupid for me to "accept" him as my savior and go around treating people like crap. So, I would think that accepting him would mean following the example he set with his life.

That it is a good question and you make a valid point. I can't imagine that you could go against Jesus' teachings your entire life, proclaim Jesus as your savior on your deathbed and then get to go to Heaven after you die. I guess that's why I gave up on religion. Too many questions and not enough clear cut answers.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by mball1297

But then the question is "What does it mean to accept him as my savior?" I assume that to do that I need to act like him as much as I can. It would seem kind of stupid for me to "accept" him as my savior and go around treating people like crap. So, I would think that accepting him would mean following the example he set with his life.

You were a Catholic for too long. You should hook up with the Evangelicals for awhile and I'm sure it would all make perfect sense to you.