His Life or His death? (Christ, charity)

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by sandy whitelinger

No one has ever done any works that are acceptable to God.

Then why did Jesus Christ say that He would "judge every man according to his works"? And why did He talk of separating the sheep from the goats? Every example He gave in that passage had to do with feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick. It is by those works that He will know whether we're really walking the walk and not just talking the talk.

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by Darkness

Which book of which Bible is this from?

Whoops... typo on my part. Those quotes are from the Epistle of James, not from the Gospel of John. Sorry.

Edit: I quoted the New International Version. From a quick look at other versions, it seems like they say pretty much the same thing for these passages.

[sandy whitelinger]

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

How are these relevant?

Matt. 5:28- My bad, Matt:5:48
John 17:23- Total brain cramp
Eph 4:13- speaks of santification process.
Col. 1:28 Another brain cramp, meant 1:28
Col 4:12- Sanctification again
Heb 7:19- Christ (the better hope) made believers perfect.
Heb 10:1 Implication of needed perfection.

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

This one seems to speak against your position.

It speaks of needed perfection. Other scripture points to this being an ineffectual method. Jesus was pointing out the futility of working one's way to heaven.

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

Fair enough, though contrast it with these verses:

John 2:14-17 & 2:20-24 (just down the page from one of your references, so I'm surprised you didn't see it), emphasis mine:

Again, Only by coming to Christ by faith can one do any deeds worthy of acceptance by God. First faith, then acceptable works. No works, no saving faith.

[sandy whitelinger]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

Then why did Jesus Christ say that He would "judge every man according to his works"? And why did He talk of separating the sheep from the goats? Every example He gave in that passage had to do with feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick. It is by those works that He will know whether we're really walking the walk and not just talking the talk.

Only those works that are spurred by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit are acceptable to God. the only way to recieve the indwelling of the Holy spirit is to accept Christ by faith.