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Old 05-11-2008, 08:18 AM
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Mark has Jesus says that all things are possible for God, but he also has him say that all things are possible to him who believes. If one takes the first statement literally, it would make sense to take the second literally, too.

Somebody purporting to be Paul says that God cannot lie, but in the Bible we see that God changes his mind sometimes. If he says he's going to do something, and then he doesn't do it, but he can't lie, it must mean that he's unable to foresee the future, including his own actions. He often seems to have trouble controlling his temper, too.
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:33 AM
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:33 AM
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If God is able to do anything, then why can't he make a rock SO LARGE that he can't move it?

However, I am sure that at the right moment, uss_bigd will provide us with his own illumination that stops just short of being overtly proselytizing. IOW, I don't think that even God can prevent the immanent preaching that is just around the corner.
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Yes? no? why?
well so far a revelation plainly understandable and beleivable without variations and interpretations seem to have been a failure.
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I personally think that God has no real free agency. I will elaborate before I get my head ripped off, and before I start I would like to say this is not an official LDS stance, but thence is where I have obtained the idea.

In the LDS church, the concept of free agency is of crucial importance, yet we are not supposed to sin. If one thinks about it, the more advanced a member one becomes, the less free agency one is allowing themselves. When I was baptised, I promised to restrict my free agency in exchange for blessings. The same with the Aaronic Priesthood, and subsequent callings as one goes higher and higher.

As we restrict ourselves and do more good works (restrict our own free agencies) we become better in the eyes of God. Not only that, but then God is bound to give those blessings. He cannot withold them by whim, He promises He must have reason to do so. God is bound to give those blessings, though arguably in whatever form he deems appropriate.

The argument would be how far that pattern extends, but I think that as one ascends to the level of Godhood, that free agency has to be abandoned altogether, and everyone united in the one purpose. What that purpose is I have no claim to really know.


To simplify a little, our righteousness increases as we voluntarily remove our free agency. If this pattern is extrapolative, ultimate righteousness is the complete removal of free agency.
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If God is all things, then God is impossibility, too.
Hehe, very clever, I wonder just how deep that could go?
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