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Old 07-03-2008, 02:06 AM
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Sorry, I didn't make myself clear, Scott.

I wasn't referring to the Apostolic Fathers, in regarding to Constantine. I know that the Apostolic Fathers lived before Constantine's time. I was referring to Constantine joining and accepting the Pauline sects as opposed to all other sects.

If you read what I have written, I didn't write Constantine joining the "Apostolic Fathers", but to the Pauline Christianity. And the Apostolic Fathers also belonged to the Pauline group.
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Old 07-03-2008, 07:33 AM
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those who came after the apostles didn't stick to the apostle's doctrine.
Just what is "the apostles' doctrine?"
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I was simply saying that when the church was under the original 12 apostles (while they were alive) the dissension was resolved unlike today.
that's because they simply kicked them out and turned their backs on them...unlike today(?).
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:46 AM
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YES SIR/MA'AM I HAVE READ A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CHURCHES HISTORY . I'M NOT A SCHOLAR ON THE MATTER, BUT I AM FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF IT.

I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THE APOSTOLIC FATHERS WHICH WERE IN EXISTENCE FROM ABOUT 100 TO 200 IN WHICH TIME AROSE GNOSTICISM AND MONTANISM'S (DOCTRINAL DISPUTE). OUT OF THIS DISPUTE CAME THE APOSTLE'S CREED AND THE CANON OF THE NEW TESTAMENT ALSO RECOGNIZED AS THE GLUE WHICH HELD THE CHURCHES TOGETHER. ANNNND AROUND 300 CAME GOOD OLE MITHRA WORSHIPING CONSTANTINE WHO DEFEATED MAXENTIUS BY WHAT HE BELIEVED WAS SIGN FROM God. THEN HIS GREAT CONVERSION TO CHRISTIANITY AND THE ISSUING OF THE "EDICT OF MILAN" WHICH PRETTY MUCH OPENED THE DOOR FOR ANYBODY TO BE A CHRISTIAN WITHOUT REALLY UNDERSTANDING DOCTRINE (AS IS TODAY WHICH IS WHY I'M NOT A CHRISTIAN) JUST TO BUMP THEIR STATUS UP IN SOCIETY. THEN A WHILE LATER THERE AROSE A FEW COUNCILS (TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND THE PERSON OF CHRIST) AND A FEW CREEDS (DECIDING THE PERSON OF CHRIST) A FEW REVELATIONS AND SO ON.

SO YES I KNOW A LITTLE NOT MUCH BUT I'M STILL STUDYING HENCE THE NAME I CHOSE (2 TIMOTHY 2:15) BUT WHAT IS YOUR POINT? DID I SAY SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THE PREVIOUS POST?

Actually, "The First Council of Nicaea, the first ecumenical council held by the church, is best known for its formulation of the Nicene Creed, the earliest dogmatic statement of Christian orthodoxy. The council was convened in 325 by the Roman emperor Constantine I in an attempt to settle the controversy raised by Arianism over the nature of the Trinity. Nearly all those who attended came from the eastern Mediterranean region."

Council of Nicaea, Nicea

Thus the literalists won the day, and only included books in the bible to support their newly stated religion.

History is written by the winners.
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Old 07-03-2008, 09:52 AM
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You got me on that one i've never heard of Paulist Christianity
If you are a Christian, you are probably a Paulist Christian.
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but still what is your point in all this ... I was simply saying that when the church was under the original 12 apostles (while they were alive) the dissension was resolved unlike today.
How would you know> We have no writings from that period.
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You take any 2 of those Paulist Christians that attend different church buildings and ask a question about doctrine... I bet they won't come to an agreement based on scripture because they all divide the scripture differently yet they serve the same Jesus
That is and has been the case at every period of Christian history.
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Old 07-16-2008, 05:11 AM
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after refering to original greek translations, I found out that Judas hanged himself upside down, that is why he fell headlong ....

no contradiction...
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after refering to original greek translations, I found out that Judas hanged himself upside down, that is why he fell headlong ....

no contradiction...

So he strangled his ankles?
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So he strangled his ankles?
Bet that took a while to die.....
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So he strangled his ankles?

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