contradictions in the bible??? (Jesus, moral, punishment, Moses, Earth)

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

she wasn't. she was mocking me.

O.K., thanks. Because I've seen Christians say sillier things than that trying to reconcile these two obviously contradictory statements. Any honest person at this point would just say, "Oh, thanks, I was mistaken. I see that there are at least two contradictory statements in the Bible." Which is really not bad, if you think about it. Instead some Christians twist themselves into pretzels trying to come up with a scenario that could involve both hanging and falling, two activities that are obviously mutually exclusive.

[Autodidact]

*uss goes away to visit some Christian apologetic websites and see what they've come up with.*

Uh, uss, if they weren't obviously contradictory, wouldn't that be unnecessary? If you have to invent your own interpretation that differs significantly from the obvious meaning, it's not the Bible is it? It's just uss.

You mean you weren't familiar with these contradictory passages, uss?

Why is it that atheists know the Bible better than Christians? Is it because the more familiar you become with it, the less likely you are to believe it?

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

*uss goes away to visit some Christian apologetic websites and see what they've come up with.*

Uh, uss, if they weren't obviously contradictory, wouldn't that be unnecessary? If you have to invent your own interpretation that differs significantly from the obvious meaning, it's not the Bible is it? It's just uss.

You mean you weren't familiar with these contradictory passages, uss?

Why is it that atheists know the Bible better than Christians? Is it because the more familiar you become with it, the less likely you are to believe it?

Objection your honor; she is making conclusions!!!!

That is why i am hesistant exchanging posts with you, all you do is badge the witness!

Why can't you wait for my reply? are you scared? if not shut up for a moment and wait for my reply.

thank you!

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

I have just one question. Are you serious? Sometimes it's hard to tell on the internet.

No, I wasn't serious in the slightest. Remember it was me who started this whole fiasco. I can't believe how out of control it's become. With uss_bigd running around in circles trying desperately to come of as having the intelligence and knowledge of a six year old, I just had to throw that out there, thinking he might pick up on it and come to the same conclusion.

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

No, I wasn't serious in the slightest. Remember it was me who started this whole fiasco. I can't believe how out of control it's become. With uss_bigd running around in circles trying desperately to come of as having the intelligence and knowledge of a six year old, I just had to throw that out there, thinking he might pick up on it and come to the same conclusion.

Bash my person, because you can't rebuke what i post.

[Autodidact]

Oh take your time. For heaven's sake, take all the time you need.

[Scuba Pete]

Here is the real issue: People with little to no faith in the POWER of God to work through imperfection and who also want to believe in Christianity have invented the notion that somehow the Bible should have no errors. That goes COMPLETELY against everything God has ever done and NO ONE has produced a single scripture that supports this silly concept!

Let's look at some salient facts and form them into a logical conclusion:

1. Only GOD is perfect and all powerful.
2. No man or woman is perfect.
3. God has chosen to work through these imperfect men and women.
4. God has inspired them to right a blog of their efforts to find him. IE, they are written from a human perspective, with human fingers and various biases.
5. Ergo: the blogs are as full of error as the imperfect people who wrote them.

Those who argue AGAINST this scenario are saying that God is not powerful enough to work through error. A quick look into the life of Saul/Paul will show you what can be done through the "chief of sinners". When we are weak (and relying on God) then we are STRONG. Stop trying to emasculate a powerful God. Let him work as he always does: through stupid, bigoted and ignorant people just like me.

OK, OK... most of you aren't nearly as stupid, bigoted or as ignorant as I am. God can probably do more with you than with me then.

[Sola'lor]

Originally Posted by Scuba Pete

Here is the real issue: People with little to no faith in the POWER of God to work through imperfection and who also want to believe in Christianity have invented the notion that somehow the Bible should have no errors. That goes COMPLETELY against everything God has ever done and NO ONE has produced a single scripture that supports this silly concept!

Let's look at some salient facts and form them into a logical conclusion:

1. Only GOD is perfect and all powerful.
2. No man or woman is perfect.
3. God has chosen to work through these imperfect men and women.
4. God has inspired them to right a blog of their efforts to find him. IE, they are written from a human perspective, with human fingers and various biases.
5. Ergo: the blogs are as full of error as the imperfect people who wrote them.

Those who argue AGAINST this scenario are saying that God is not powerful enough to work through error. A quick look into the life of Saul/Paul will show you what can be done through the "chief of sinners". When we are weak (and relying on God) then we are STRONG. Stop trying to emasculate a powerful God. Let him work as he always does: through stupid, bigoted and ignorant people just like me.

OK, OK... most of you aren't nearly as stupid, bigoted or as ignorant as I am. God can probably do more with you than with me then.

Great post!

[pray4me]

Originally Posted by Scuba Pete

Here is the real issue: People with little to no faith in the POWER of God to work through imperfection and who also want to believe in Christianity have invented the notion that somehow the Bible should have no errors. That goes COMPLETELY against everything God has ever done and NO ONE has produced a single scripture that supports this silly concept!

Let's look at some salient facts and form them into a logical conclusion:

1. Only GOD is perfect and all powerful.
2. No man or woman is perfect.
3. God has chosen to work through these imperfect men and women.
4. God has inspired them to right a blog of their efforts to find him. IE, they are written from a human perspective, with human fingers and various biases.
5. Ergo: the blogs are as full of error as the imperfect people who wrote them.

Those who argue AGAINST this scenario are saying that God is not powerful enough to work through error. A quick look into the life of Saul/Paul will show you what can be done through the "chief of sinners". When we are weak (and relying on God) then we are STRONG. Stop trying to emasculate a powerful God. Let him work as he always does: through stupid, bigoted and ignorant people just like me.

OK, OK... most of you aren't nearly as stupid, bigoted or as ignorant as I am. God can probably do more with you than with me then.

Exactly, the bible cannot be inerrent since the men who wrote it and translated it weren't and aren't. I disagree with the statement above that the more familiar you become with the bible the less likely you are to believe it. I'm very familiar with the bible, I've read it from cover to cover. I think the more you try to use your own understanding (Proverbs3:5) the more you mess things up. We are all imperfect, all except him. No book written by man and interpretted by man is going to be error free.

[Scuba Pete]

Originally Posted by pray4me