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Old 05-18-2008, 11:28 PM
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The key Phrase here is, " until the person decides" in his heart God cannot know what he/she will do
How can someone have decided their answer to a question that has yet to be posed?
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:25 PM
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How can someone have decided their answer to a question that has yet to be posed?

I honestly get the feeling thay you are disagreeing with me jsut for the sake of disagreeing sir, but i hope not.

A question can be posted in internally in once conscience. that is also when a person decides in their hearts.
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The way to determine whether God is omniscient and omnipresent,is to look into God's word for answers.
The Bible tells us that God is Perfect in Knowledge, Job 36:4.
Saying that He is perfect in knowledge does not mean that He knows everything that will ever happen. If things have not yet happened, there is really nothing to know.
It is definite that God did not know that Adam and Eve would turn out. God even warned them about disobeying. This would be meaningles if He already knew what they were going to do.

We can see for certain that God is not omnipresent by what is written in the book of 1Kings, st 1Kings 19:11,12. Here several things in nature are mentioned, and it is stated that God was not in each of them. God therefore is not omnipresent, or He would have been in each of them.
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:53 PM
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Hello,
The way to determine whether God is omniscient and omnipresent,is to look into God's word for answers.
The Bible tells us that God is Perfect in Knowledge, Job 36:4.
Saying that He is perfect in knowledge does not mean that He knows everything that will ever happen. If things have not yet happened, there is really nothing to know.
It is definite that God did not know that Adam and Eve would turn out. God even warned them about disobeying. This would be meaningles if He already knew what they were going to do.

We can see for certain that God is not omnipresent by what is written in the book of 1Kings, st 1Kings 19:11,12. Here several things in nature are mentioned, and it is stated that God was not in each of them. God therefore is not omnipresent, or He would have been in each of them.
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If things have not yet happened, there is really nothing to know.
But there is nothing that has yet to happen...
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But there is nothing that has yet to happen...
Judgement has yet to happen
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From your perspective.

From the bible's perspective it has not happened yet.

Can you prove judgement has happened already? biblically speaking?
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An omniscient, omnipotent god is completely helpless, all decision are pre-ordained, all outcomes are pre-destined from its viewpoint. It might as well retire to the heavenly greens to play golf for the rest of eternity.
The point of this thread is to prove that the God of the bible is not omniscient and omnipresent.
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