LDS beliefs and the Bible

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Sola'lor

So there's nothing in there about a comma then. No wonder I couldn't find it. It was an incorrect quote.

Oh my apologies, my inerrant bible always amazes me with its all encompassing terms " the smallest stroke of the pen" will definitely include the comma.

and that is the words of My Christ

Mat 5:18

"I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."

the law alloted for people to have their "own" spouse. it didn't say co-own. Jesus the son of the almighty God, creator of heaven and earth said " I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."


so? is my bible incomplete, contradicting and erroneous? it is not

it will be if you reject my Christs who spoke the words above.

[uss_bigd]

Wow, by saying he got permission be be oversexed clearly indicatse you have about ZERO understanding of the principle of polygamy. Perhaps you should go study it. Then come back after you have increased in knowledge and wisdom.

I don't have too, it is not biblical.

[quote]I didn't know Joseph Smith had his own Christ. From my understanding Joseph Smith believed in the Christ of the Bible./QUOTE]

He didn't believe in the Christs of the bible, Paul the apostles of Christs said " each person may have there own spouse" not co-own a spouse.

The Christ that makes me complete is the Saviour of the universe. Only through His infinate gift of teh atonement can I be made perfect. I guess that does sound pretty perverse doesn't it. Sacrificing your perfect self for the sins off all the universe. ICKY! BLEH![

You did say the Christs of the bible is incomplete, erroneous and contradicting and needed additinal revelations from Jospeh Smith. so who completed your incomplete, erroneous and contradicting bible?

We're not talking about that. We're talking about the perfect Bible. So, which bible do you use? I want to learn what this perfect Bible is and where it comes from.

I already told you, are you blind? or choose to be blind?

I read the bible that states this

Mat 5:18

8I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

So which one is it. I want to use a perfect Bible too.

How can you use something that you don't beleive exists?

[Sola'lor]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

How can you use something that you don't beleive exists?

My believe is irrelevent. If there truely is a perfect Bible then it must exist outside of my beliefs. I would love for there to be a perfect Bible! You claim to have it. I want to read your perfect Bible. Where can I get one? I'm not joking about this. I'm serious.

[uss_bigd]

I thought i answered this question already

We're not talking about that. We're talking about the perfect Bible. So, which bible do you use? I want to learn what this perfect Bible is and where it comes from.

I already told you, are you blind? or choose to be blind?

I read the bible that states this

Mat 5:18

8I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.


now you are asking again....

Originally Posted by Sola'lor

My believe is irrelevent. If there truely is a perfect Bible then it must exist outside of my beliefs. I would love for there to be a perfect Bible! You claim to have it. I want to read your perfect Bible. Where can I get one? I'm not joking about this. I'm serious.

I hope this the the last time i will answer your question...


I read the bible that states this

Mat 5:18

"I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."


which part of " not the smallest stroke of a pen will BY ANY MEANS disappear from the law" do you not understand?

[uss_bigd]

Originally Posted by Sola'lor

Hey, what do you know. The Christ I believe in, who was sent by a God who can't lie said that exact same thing! cRaZy!

ok, so your saying you don't believe him then. coz you believe his laws are incomplete, erroneous and contradicting.

Have I ever attacked the bible?

yes, by saying it is incomplete, erroneous and contradicting.... read MAt 5:18 again before you breath ...

Wow, where did you get the idea I wanted to kill you? I do own a gun but it's for self defense and practice.

no, i was just stressing my point ....

What does sperm have to do with anything. I thought you were conservative! Now you're going around talking about sperm!

it has something to do with having lots of wives to have sex with, didn't you know that the testicles can only produce sperm good enough for approx 7 ejaculations.

if JS had more than 7 wives how could he have followed this:

1 Cor 7:5

"Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control."

Certainly, JS will deprive some of his wives not because of prayer or fasting, but because he can't have hard on anymore.... hehehehehe

PLEASE ALL CHILDREN NEED TO LEAVE THIS THREAD!

and you acceptance to polygamy is not to be "r" rated? what hypocrisy!

Riiiiiiiiiiight!!

*cough* like a hungry wolf *cough*
*cough* oversex himself *cough*
*cough* too many wives than sperm *cough*

I'm so glad you never attack Joseph Smith's person.

an attack is different from a statement of fact...

[Sola'lor]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

I thought i answered this question already

I didn't see an answer.

I already told you, are you blind? or choose to be blind?

Actually a wear glasses.

But I strive to learn as much as possible. Which is why I want to read this perfect Bible that you have.

I read the bible that states this

Mat 5:18

8I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

My Bible has that verse in it too.

which part of " not the smallest stroke of a pen will BY ANY MEANS disappear from the law" do you not understand?

I understand all of that. We aren't talking about the Law though. We are talking about the Bible. The Law exists independent of the Bible. The Bible contains the Law, but the Bible is not the Law. I believe that the LAw will never disappear until everything is accomplished. I BELIEVE THAT!

So back to my question about thet bible. You said you have a PERFECT BIble. THe Bible I use is not perfect. It was translated and compiled from the records written by servents of God. But In those translations and compilations errors occured. I use the King James Version of teh Bible. It is factually not perfect. That's not an opionion but a historical and linguistic fact. Minor part of the Bible are contradictory. No matter how minor, those contardictions are an error. The Bible I use has errors in it.

Now, You say that the bible you use is perfect. Therefore the Bible you use MUST be a different version than mine. I would love to read a perfect Bible. You bible must not contain any of the errors mine does within it's text or else it too would be imperfect. Now please tell me which version your Bible is. I want to read it.

Stop hogging the perfect Bible all to yourself.

If anyone else out there uses this perfect versionof the Bible that uss_bigd uses please tell me what it is and where I can get one. PLEASE!

[Sola'lor]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

ok, so your saying you don't believe him then. coz you believe his laws are incomplete, erroneous and contradicting.

No I don't, I believe God's laws are perfect and shall always be so.

yes, by saying it is incomplete, erroneous and contradicting....

Is that an attack?

read MAt 5:18 again before you breath ...

I read it before you even posted this.

no, i was just stressing my point ....

Ok I would hate to think that you are physically threatened by me.

it has something to do with having lots of wives to have sex with,

Except that Polygamy doesn't have to do with sex. It does sometimes have to do with increasing the number of offspring. And it does, sometimes, have to do with taking care of women. But when God commands people to practice polygamy it NEVER is for sex for pleasure. Just ask Abraham.

didn't you know that the testicles can only produce sperm good enough for approx 7 ejaculations.

HIDE YOUR EYES CHILDREN!

if JS had more than 7 wives how could he have followed this:

1 Cor 7:5

"Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control."

Certainly, JS will deprive some of his wives not because of prayer or fasting, but because he can't have hard on anymore.... hehehehehe

POTTY MOUTH!!! POTTY MOUTH!!!!

What about a monogamous couple that do it more seven times? He's depriving His wife then too.

Sorry children!

and you acceptance to polygamy is not to be "r" rated? what hypocrisy!

What does polygamy have to do with R-rating? It's no more R-rated than monogamy is.

an attack is different from a statement of fact...

Since when is oversex himself, hungry wolf, and too many wives than sperm considerd a fact. It sounds alot like an opinion to me.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by uss_bigd

an attack is different from a statement of fact...

It is. And you haven't stated any facts. You have slandered a man you don't know. You have made assumptions you have no way of proving. You are off-topic and uninformed and are clearly incapable of having an intelligent conversation. Those are statement of fact.