answer my claims (Jesus, Earth, paradise, virgin, contradiction)

[muslim21]

the bible has many contradictions even if it has one it is disproved to the word of god
so please answer my claims

2 kings ch.8 v. 26: Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign;

2chronicles ch.22 v.2: Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign

if we take it that he was 42 when he began to reign then another contradiction appears

2 chronicles ch.21 v. 20 Thirty and two years old was he when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem eight years

his son becomes king at age of 42 , how can a son be 2 years older than the father

[Popeyesays]

Originally Posted by muslim21

the bible has many contradictions even if it has one it is disproved to the word of god
so please answer my claims

2 kings ch.8 v. 26: Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign;

2chronicles ch.22 v.2: Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign

if we take it that he was 42 when he began to reign then another contradiction appears

2 chronicles ch.21 v. 20 Thirty and two years old was he when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem eight years

his son becomes king at age of 42 , how can a son be 2 years older than the father

If the Qur'an had had more than a single Reciter, there would havbe been inconsequential discrepancies in it as well.

Regards,
Scott

[Jeremy Mason]

Originally Posted by muslim21

the bible has many contradictions even if it has one it is disproved to the word of god
so please answer my claims

2 kings ch.8 v. 26: Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign;

2chronicles ch.22 v.2: Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign

if we take it that he was 42 when he began to reign then another contradiction appears

2 chronicles ch.21 v. 20 Thirty and two years old was he when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem eight years

his son becomes king at age of 42 , how can a son be 2 years older than the father

The answer is
2 Chronicles 22:2
Ahaziah was twenty-two [a] years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem one year. His mother's name was Athaliah, a granddaughter of Omri.

What Bible did you use?

[kai]

Originally Posted by muslim21

the bible has many contradictions even if it has one it is disproved to the word of god
so please answer my claims

2 kings ch.8 v. 26: Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign;

2chronicles ch.22 v.2: Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign

if we take it that he was 42 when he began to reign then another contradiction appears

2 chronicles ch.21 v. 20 Thirty and two years old was he when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem eight years

his son becomes king at age of 42 , how can a son be 2 years older than the father

whats your point? there are many translations of a collection of witings called the bible are you saying tht all Qurans in the world in all translations are the same and have no inconsistancies?

[hoodedhess]

Here's a list of contradictions in the Quran that I know of;

1. In Sura 3:42, 45 SEVERAL angels appear to Mary in the annunciation of the birth of Jesus.
In Sura 19:17-21 only ONE angel appears to the virgin Mary.
2. In Sura 22:47 and 32:5 Allah's day is equal to 1,000 human years.
In Sura 70:4, Allah's day is equal to 50,000 human years.
3. In Sura 41:30 and 57:21 there is said to be only one garden in Paradise.
In Sura 18:31, 22:23, 25:33, and 78:32 there are many gardens in Paradise.
4. Sura 56:7 says there will be three distinct groups of people at the Last Judgment.
Sura 90:18-19 and 99:6-8 say there will be two distinct groups at the Last Judgment.
5. Sura 32:11 The angel of death, Sura 47:27 The angels (plural)
Sura 39:42 "It is Allah that takes the souls at death"
6. Sura 35:1 Angels have 2, 3, or 4 pairs of wings
The angel Gabriel had 600 wings. (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 455)
7. Sura 54:19 - One day
Sura 41:16 & 69:6,7 - several days
8. Sura 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, and 25:59 all clearly state that God created "the heavens and the earth" in six days.
Sura 41:9-12, the detailed description of the creation procedure, add up to eight days.
9. Sura 2:29 says the earth was created first and then heaven.
Sura 49:27-30 says the heaven was created first and then the earth was created.
10. Sura 41:11 states that in the process of creation heaven and earth were first apart and are called to come together.
Sura 21:30 states that they were originally one piece and then ripped apart.
11. Surah 18:89-98 says Alexander the Great was a devout Muslim and lived to a ripe old age.
Historical records show that Alexander the Great died young at 33 years of age. He believed he was divine and forced others to recognize him as such. In India on the Hyphasis River Alexander erected twelve altars to twelve Olympian gods.
I don't see why you have the need to point out contradictions in the Bible, you should be pointing out the ones in the Quran the supposed "perfect and holy book" God Bless.

[Troublemane]

Originally Posted by hoodedhess

Here's a list of contradictions in the Quran that I know of;

1. In Sura 3:42, 45 SEVERAL angels appear to Mary in the annunciation of the birth of Jesus.
In Sura 19:17-21 only ONE angel appears to the virgin Mary.
2. In Sura 22:47 and 32:5 Allah's day is equal to 1,000 human years.
In Sura 70:4, Allah's day is equal to 50,000 human years.
3. In Sura 41:30 and 57:21 there is said to be only one garden in Paradise.
In Sura 18:31, 22:23, 25:33, and 78:32 there are many gardens in Paradise.
4. Sura 56:7 says there will be three distinct groups of people at the Last Judgment.
Sura 90:18-19 and 99:6-8 say there will be two distinct groups at the Last Judgment.
5. Sura 32:11 The angel of death, Sura 47:27 The angels (plural)
Sura 39:42 "It is Allah that takes the souls at death"
6. Sura 35:1 Angels have 2, 3, or 4 pairs of wings
The angel Gabriel had 600 wings. (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 455)
7. Sura 54:19 - One day
Sura 41:16 & 69:6,7 - several days
8. Sura 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, and 25:59 all clearly state that God created "the heavens and the earth" in six days.
Sura 41:9-12, the detailed description of the creation procedure, add up to eight days.
9. Sura 2:29 says the earth was created first and then heaven.
Sura 49:27-30 says the heaven was created first and then the earth was created.
10. Sura 41:11 states that in the process of creation heaven and earth were first apart and are called to come together.
Sura 21:30 states that they were originally one piece and then ripped apart.
11. Surah 18:89-98 says Alexander the Great was a devout Muslim and lived to a ripe old age.
Historical records show that Alexander the Great died young at 33 years of age. He believed he was divine and forced others to recognize him as such. In India on the Hyphasis River Alexander erected twelve altars to twelve Olympian gods.
I don't see why you have the need to point out contradictions in the Bible, you should be pointing out the ones in the Quran the supposed "perfect and holy book" God Bless.

Wow those are good quotes. That pretty much ends the debate.

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by hoodedhess

Here's a list of contradictions in the Quran that I know of;

1. In Sura 3:42, 45 SEVERAL angels appear to Mary in the annunciation of the birth of Jesus.
In Sura 19:17-21 only ONE angel appears to the virgin Mary.
2. In Sura 22:47 and 32:5 Allah's day is equal to 1,000 human years.
In Sura 70:4, Allah's day is equal to 50,000 human years.
3. In Sura 41:30 and 57:21 there is said to be only one garden in Paradise.
In Sura 18:31, 22:23, 25:33, and 78:32 there are many gardens in Paradise.
4. Sura 56:7 says there will be three distinct groups of people at the Last Judgment.
Sura 90:18-19 and 99:6-8 say there will be two distinct groups at the Last Judgment.
5. Sura 32:11 The angel of death, Sura 47:27 The angels (plural)
Sura 39:42 "It is Allah that takes the souls at death"
6. Sura 35:1 Angels have 2, 3, or 4 pairs of wings
The angel Gabriel had 600 wings. (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 455)
7. Sura 54:19 - One day
Sura 41:16 & 69:6,7 - several days
8. Sura 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, and 25:59 all clearly state that God created "the heavens and the earth" in six days.
Sura 41:9-12, the detailed description of the creation procedure, add up to eight days.
9. Sura 2:29 says the earth was created first and then heaven.
Sura 49:27-30 says the heaven was created first and then the earth was created.
10. Sura 41:11 states that in the process of creation heaven and earth were first apart and are called to come together.
Sura 21:30 states that they were originally one piece and then ripped apart.
11. Surah 18:89-98 says Alexander the Great was a devout Muslim and lived to a ripe old age.
Historical records show that Alexander the Great died young at 33 years of age. He believed he was divine and forced others to recognize him as such. In India on the Hyphasis River Alexander erected twelve altars to twelve Olympian gods.
I don't see why you have the need to point out contradictions in the Bible, you should be pointing out the ones in the Quran the supposed "perfect and holy book" God Bless.

So the answer to a Muslim's claim that there are contradictions in the Bible is make claims of contradictions in the Quran?

[Sarcasm]
Such debating skills are so far beyond anything we mere mortals here at RF have seen...
[/sarcasm]

[muslim21]

point 1) the word used is malaika in the 3 chapter , in the 19 th its rooh( spirit)

2) the word used in the quraan is yowm or ayaam( 1 is singular and other plural which has 2 meanings 1 is day and another is hippox(period) so one place so it could be 100 years also.
you are lying in ch.70 v.4 it says its 50000 years for the angels not the humans read the translation again

3) it says in ch. 57 v. 21 it is talking to the individual and if you had read the translation you would realsie that too, an individual has a garden to himslef

in 18:31 in says for them will be the gardens of paradise so its talking about a group of people

4) in 56:7 it says there will be 3 groups refering to 3 good groups one who is very close to god
the ones who are exalted and those who are righteous

in ch.90 v.18-19 it does not talk about 2 different groups it talks about the punishment for those who reject islam so again you have lied

in ch. 99 v. 6-8 it does not say 2 groups it says everyone will be in different groups depending ypon your deeds etc. so you have lied again

5) ch. 47 v. 27 in the Arabic language all things are either masculine or feminine so because this word is plural it isnt actually feminine but it has the ending letter of a feminine object so thats the
reason its got an s on the end

ch. 39 v. 42 allah takes souls at death yes all the souls are taken out at his command so indirectly it is him who takes them out , its like if you pay a hit man to kill someone you would also get arrested for manslaughter because you were connected to his death

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by muslim21

point 1) the word used is malaika in the 3 chapter , in the 19 th its rooh( spirit)

2) the word used in the quraan is yowm or ayaam( 1 is singular and other plural which has 2 meanings 1 is day and another is hippox(period) so one place so it could be 100 years also.
you are lying in ch.70 v.4 it says its 50000 years for the angels not the humans read the translation again

3) it says in ch. 57 v. 21 it is talking to the individual and if you had read the translation you would realsie that too, an individual has a garden to himslef

in 18:31 in says for them will be the gardens of paradise so its talking about a group of people

4) in 56:7 it says there will be 3 groups refering to 3 good groups one who is very close to god
the ones who are exalted and those who are righteous

in ch.90 v.18-19 it does not talk about 2 different groups it talks about the punishment for those who reject islam so again you have lied

in ch. 99 v. 6-8 it does not say 2 groups it says everyone will be in different groups depending ypon your deeds etc. so you have lied again

5) ch. 47 v. 27 in the Arabic language all things are either masculine or feminine so because this word is plural it isnt actually feminine but it has the ending letter of a feminine object so thats the
reason its got an s on the end

ch. 39 v. 42 allah takes souls at death yes all the souls are taken out at his command so indirectly it is him who takes them out , its like if you pay a hit man to kill someone you would also get arrested for manslaughter because you were connected to his death

So they are mistranslations?