No Adam = no Original Sin - right? (moral, genesis, moral)

[Sola'lor]

Originally Posted by Soldano16

Now that it's widely accepted that the story of Adam is not a literal representation of reality, the concept of original sin falls apart, it would seem.

It is widely accepted that it's not literal? Well to each his/her own. I don't believe in original sin, anyway, even though I believe in a literal Adam,

[Dunemeister]

Originally Posted by pray4me

I don't believe people are born evil. I believe people are born as Adam was made good and that each of them eventually makes the choice to sin sometime during their lives. You truely see innocence when you look into a newborn baby's eyes. How can anyone think that we are born evil?

The doctrine of original sin (despite what some overenthusiastic proponents of it say) does not say that people are born evil. It says that we are born with a propensity for evil. You don't have to teach children to be selfish, lie, or hurt others. Quite the contrary. You have to teach them to share, to be considerate, to be generous. So whatever "innocence" children have in their eyes, it's seriously defaced by their first birthday.

[Comprehend]

Originally Posted by Dunemeister

Not at all. The first chapter of Genesis is a theological interpretation of human origins. It's telling us that "Adam" (the word means "humanity") has a propensity to rebel against God, and this propensity leads to idolatry and immorality.

Adam means "man" not "humanity"

'adam {aw-dawm'**
Hebrew: noun masculine
Possible Definitions:
1) man, mankind
1a) man, human being
1b) man, mankind (much more frequently intended sense in OT)
1c) Adam, first man
1d) city in Jordan valley
'adam {aw-dawm'**
Hebrew: noun masculine
from 119;
Strong's Number 120
Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament - 25a

[Comprehend]

Originally Posted by Soldano16

Now that it's widely accepted that the story of Adam is not a literal representation of reality, the concept of original sin falls apart, it would seem.

I guess I am one of those people who does believe that Adam was an actual person who "fell" however, I do not believe in Original Sin... so what do you think of that?

[Soldano16]

Originally Posted by Dunemeister

"Adam" (the word means "humanity") has a propensity to rebel against God, and this propensity leads to idolatry and immorality.

So god made us this way and then blames us?

[Soldano16]

Originally Posted by Comprehend

I guess I am one of those people who does believe that Adam was an actual person who "fell" however, I do not believe in Original Sin... so what do you think of that?

I must admit that I don't think much of anyone who believes the bible as a literal account.

[stephenw]

Originally Posted by pray4me

I don't believe people are born evil. I believe people are born as Adam was made good and that each of them eventually makes the choice to sin sometime during their lives. You truely see innocence when you look into a newborn baby's eyes. How can anyone think that we are born evil?

I agree with the view that when you look into the face of a newborn you are looking at God.

[astarath]

lol I imagine that we dont often think about you either Soldano

[crystalonyx]

The concept of "sin" was invented by religion to use as a place-holder for guilt to keep believers. The idea that we need saving from ourselves is actually ridiculous, what we need saving from is snake-oil salesmen.

[rheff78]

Actually, by the story, no Eve would equal no original sin.