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I don't believe Jesus, Mary or Joesph existed, any more than Jupiter, Juno, or Mars existed.
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I think we have pretty good evidence that Jesus existed, and we can assume that he had parents; most people do. I think people who don't believe Jesus existed often confuse the person of Jesus with all the mythological beliefs that are added on to Jesus.......
I've always thought of the bible as being somewhat historically true, but that some of the events have either been made up or completely embelished to symbolize an idea.
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If abstinence was a "Godly" thing, then why is it IMPOSSIBLE to reproduce any other way. had Adam and Eve not born children they would have died and thwe human race would have ended with them.

If christians all lived celibately, there would be no more christians left.

Matter in fact God COMMANDED adam and Eve to have sex. "multiply and replenish the earth"
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If christians all lived celibately, there would be no more christians left.
Sounds good to me.

But seriously, if everybody was a stonemason, who would do the carpentry? Just because something isn't right for everybody, that doesn't mean that an alternative must be right for everybody.
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If abstinence was a "Godly" thing, then why is it IMPOSSIBLE to reproduce any other way. had Adam and Eve not born children they would have died and thwe human race would have ended with them.........
There were other people that suddenly appeared on the Earth that weren't of Adam & Eve though.

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There were other people that suddenly appeared on the Earth that weren't of Adam & Eve though.
who? i don't know of whom you speak
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If abstinence was a "Godly" thing, then why is it IMPOSSIBLE to reproduce any other way. had Adam and Eve not born children they would have died and thwe human race would have ended with them.
Agreed. It's only considered "Godly" because it's obeying God above your own impulsive wants (before marriage).
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Cain's wife for a start.
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While I think that's unlikely, it's always struck me as odd that people could reject it as ridiculously implausible that she was sexually abstinent after Jesus' birth, but very believable that she was abstinent before.
Aren't a lot of people abstinent before marriage?
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Aren't a lot of people abstinent before marriage?

technically.... everyone has been inside a woman.......
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technically.... everyone has been inside a woman.......
And most men spend the rest of their lives trying to get back in there.
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