Why don't we have the same opinions? (Jesus, follower, Holy Spirit)

[UltraViolet]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Why don't we all have the same opinions?

Heck, I don't even have the same opinions of things as I once had.

Yes... and also in different seasons....

[Seyorni]

Originally Posted by theNEWreality

Why would the holy Spirit have the same answers for everyone?!

We are each and every one of us completely different!

I think the point is, when you read a Biology textbook or car repair manual everything is succinctly and clearly explained.There is no need for interpretation. So you would expect that God would take pains to insure that a Text so much more important than an automotive handbook: a plan for the proper organization of the entire world; a text the fate of your very soul depends on, would be more scrupulously clear than any other text in the world!

[UnTheist]

Originally Posted by cardero

Why don't we have the same opinions?
We wouldn't want the same opinion. What would we have to discuss and talk about?

Who says we have to talk about something?

[UltraViolet]

Originally Posted by Seyorni

I think the point is, when you read a Biology textbook or car repair manual everything is succinctly and clearly explained.There is no need for interpretation. So you would expect that God would take pains to insure that a Text so much more important than an automotive handbook: a plan for the proper organization of the entire world; a text the fate of your very soul depends on, would be more scrupulously clear than any other text in the world!

What "proper" organization of the entire world?!
It is a collective of individuals who make up the world.

I say there would be no such manual...
Because #1 I don't think life works that way...
like a manual. God is an artist.
Artists create and interpret.
We were created in God's image to create and interpret.

and #2 men in power wouldn't let
the masses have a clear manual to true freedom anyway.
It would ruin their game.
(IMHO)

[Sonic247]

Originally Posted by Seyorni

I think the point is, when you read a Biology textbook or car repair manual everything is succinctly and clearly explained.There is no need for interpretation. So you would expect that God would take pains to insure that a Text so much more important than an automotive handbook: a plan for the proper organization of the entire world; a text the fate of your very soul depends on, would be more scrupulously clear than any other text in the world!

Well the Bible is diffrent than a car repair manual, someone can memorize a car repair manual and know everything it has to say, but the same person can study the Bible for 50 years and never scratch the surface. The things in the Bible are spiritually discerned, not just memorized. Another thing is a car is pretty complicated, not many people understand exactly how every part works even if they own the book, so how much harder is it to know the mind of God?

[Scuba Pete]

Originally Posted by Seyorni

I think the point is, when you read a Biology textbook or car repair manual everything is succinctly and clearly explained.

I can tell that you haven't read the agerage car manual in quite a while! Of course, there are many of us who can repair MOST cars without ever opening the manual. Our mechanical aptitude or intuition is much faster and more precise than any manual.

But, the Scriptures were designed to apply to not just one year and model, but to ALL of them. Granted that we have only ONE maker, but the variances between all of the models are amazing. This one needs a broken heart mended. That one needs to have it's guidance system repaired. I know that my transmission is often faulty and I don't seem to do what I know I should do.

It's like going to the Doctor. Would you want a Doctor that told everyone the same thing? Head cold? Take two aspirin! Broken ankle? Take two aspirin! Arterial bleeding? Take two aspirin. The person who is haughty needs a different message than the one who has low self esteem. Yet the Scriptures can accomodate ALL of these human problems easily. That's part of the SUPERNATURAL aspesct of the Scriptures. If you are sincerely LOOKING for answers, you will find them.

Yes, we need to sacrifice a few sacred cows along the way, and stop trying to make the Scriptures say what we WANT them to say. But the trip is worth it and the prize is beyond value.

[Arrow]

Originally Posted by theNEWreality

and #2 men in power wouldn't let
the masses have a clear manual to true freedom anyway.
It would ruin their game.
(IMHO)

I would say that at least from my interpretation of the Bible that the leaders should not want to be controling of fellow followers of Jesus. If anything, I think they are more for encouraging us to live as Jesus lived.

[Seyorni]

Originally Posted by theNEWreality

What "proper" organization of the entire world?!
It is a collective of individuals who make up the world.

Isn't there a list of ten major rules in there somewhere? Aren't there social and moral rules propounded on every other page?

I say there would be no such manual...
Because #1 I don't think life works that way...
like a manual. God is an artist.
Artists create and interpret.
We were created in God's image to create and interpret.

If God deliberately allows ambiguity then we can't be held to account for incorrect interpretations, can we?

and #2 men in power wouldn't let
the masses have a clear manual to true freedom anyway.
It would ruin their game.
(IMHO)

Here I think you have a point. It did take a long time and a lot of bloody struggle before a Bible in the vernacular was given the imprimatur.

[Seyorni]

Originally Posted by Sonic247

Well the Bible is diffrent than a car repair manual, someone can memorize a car repair manual and know everything it has to say, but the same person can study the Bible for 50 years and never scratch the surface. The things in the Bible are spiritually discerned, not just memorized. Another thing is a car is pretty complicated, not many people understand exactly how every part works even if they own the book, so how much harder is it to know the mind of God?

I'm not disputing this, Sonic. I'm questioning the propriety of this.