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Old 11-11-2007, 03:09 PM
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If there is NO God, then it is just a manmade rule.
If there is a God, you who sin and fail to accknowledge him and his rules, you are in the book of the wicked, in this case the beer commercial applies.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:04 PM
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"Is premarital sex really a sin? "

I need to check the 1000 page Catholic manual of major and minor sins first.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:16 PM
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"Is premarital sex really a sin? "

I need to check the 1000 page Catholic manual of major and minor sins first.
I [Lucifer] invented rock and roll. You wouldn't believe the things I've invented. Anal sex, obviously. Smoking. Astrology. Money... Let's save time: everything in the world that distracts you from thinking about God. Which... pretty much... is everything in the world, isn't it? Gosh.
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NO! EXCEPT in the minds of the sex obsessed.

Nowhere in "God's" rules is the word "sin" mentioned nor any forbidding of sex prior to mating permanently.

NO, the bible is NOT Gods rules as Her rules are contained in Her 10 Commandments (v2.0).

Sex is a natural thing starting about 13-14 or so. To forbid sex at any age/condition is un-natural. THE only concern ought to be the outcome of sex. If there is a potential birth then the couple MUST make sure they treat their child properly.
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No it is not, end of. Sin is finding out that that your wife is a freak and you are not... or visa versa. Imagine having to go through life finding out that the only way your wife will have intercorse is with you on top and with her eyes closed....... Maybe you have a good imagination. But a year or 2 down the road, you are wanting to have something more freaky. Like (Christians, read no further) Oral sex. Or even anal.
Soooooo You then find it elsewere to satisy your needs. And if you had only known before hand, you never would have married a woman that pi$$ed ice cubes. Explore. Know God. (As in "OH MY GOD!!! HARDER!!! DEEPER!!!)
Sin is being married to someone that is not on your same playing field. Need I say more?
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If sin is the 1.transgression of divine law

then sin doesn't exist if there is no god.
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If sin is the 1.transgression of divine law

then sin doesn't exist if there is no god.


Tell him what he's won, Jim!
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Is premarital sex really a sin? The Bible condemns sexual immorality but not premarital sex. I personally do not believe that premarital sex is a sin. What do you believe?
I don't "believe" in the concept of "sin".

I "believe" in concepts of morality...and personal accountability for the choices one makes in uniquely controllable conditions.

I don't "believe" that pre-marital sex is a "sin", but it does bear individual accountability and responsibility and accountability for whatever consequences may arise from any mutually consensual choices made. That said, adolescents do NOT retain the requisite levels of maturity, perspective, or value judgment to be held either entirely accountable or responsible for inevitably lacking discretions or discernments.

If an unmarried sixty-eight year old man, and an unmarried sixty-five year old woman want to enjoy "pre-marital sex" (beyond any overtly expressed interests towards any prospective marriage), does anyone really object to that (beyond the icky kinda picture that pairing paints)?

[And, just for fun...who lives with whom in the afterlife, if men/women have remarried multiple times upon the death of spouses? Are custodial rights of children deliberated/enforced in an "afterlife"? Where (or with whom) are adopted kids appointed to reside after their mortal existence has expired? Just wondering...]
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