Why have Christians forgotten the fourth Commandment? (Earth, exodus, bible)

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by d.n.irvin

What part of His law changes?

A short list to get you started:

60. All animals to be sacrificed must be at least eight days old. (Leviticus 22:27)
61. All animals to be sacrificed must be without blemish. (Leviticus 22:21)
62. All offerings must be salted. (Leviticus 2:13)
63. The Law of the burnt offering. (Leviticus 1:2-17)
64. The Law of the sin offering. (Leviticus 6:25-30)
65. The Law of the trespass offering. (Leviticus 7:1-2, 7)
66. The Law of the peace offering. (Leviticus 3:1-17)
67. The Law of the grain offering. (Leviticus 2:1-16)
68. If the congregation sins ignorantly, a sin offering must be brought. (Leviticus 4:13-21)
69. If a person sins ignorantly, a sin offering must be brought when he learns of his sin. (Leviticus 4:27-35)
70. If a person is in doubt as to whether he has sinned in regard to any of the holy things, a suspensive guilt offering must be brought. (Leviticus 5:15-19)
71. A sin offering must be brought for stealing, swearing falsely, and sins of a like nature. (Leviticus 6:1-7)
72. The sin offering must be according to one's means. (Leviticus 5:7-13)
74. A man who has an abnormal discharge (zab) must bring a sacrifice. (Leviticus 15:13-15)
75. A woman who has an abnormal discharge (zabah) must bring a sacrifice. (Leviticus 15:28-30)
76. A woman must bring a sacrifice after childbirth. (Leviticus 12:6-8)
77. A leper must bring a sacrifice after he has been cleansed. (Leviticus 14:1-32)
82. If the firstling of a donkey is not redeemed, its neck must be broken. (Exodus 13:13)
83. All tithes and offerings must be brought to the sanctuary of Yahweh. (Deuteronomy 12:5-6)
92. A Nazirite must let his hair grow during the period of separation. (Numbers 6:5)
93. A Nazirite must shave his head and bring the sacrifice when the period of separation is over. (Numbers 6:13-18)
96. Anyone who touches or eats the carcass of an unclean animal becomes ritually unclean. (Leviticus 11)
97. Anyone who touches or eats the carcass of a clean animal that dies of itself, or is torn by wild animals, becomes ritually unclean. (Leviticus 11:29-31)
98. Any article that has come in contact with a ritually unclean object becomes ritually unclean. (Leviticus 11:31-38)
99. Menstruous women are ritually unclean. (Leviticus 15:19-24)
100. Women after childbirth are ritually unclean. (Leviticus 12:2)
101. Anyone with a spreading skin disease is ritually unclean. (Leviticus 13:2-46)
102. Any clothing contaminated with a spreading disease is ritually unclean. (Leviticus 13:47-59)
103. A house contaminated by a spreading disease is ritually unclean. (Leviticus 14:34-57)
104. A man having an abnormal discharge (zab) is ritually unclean. (Leviticus 15:2-15)
105. Anyone or anything coming into contact with semen becomes ritually unclean. (Leviticus 15:16-18)
106. A woman with an abnormal discharge (zabah) is ritually unclean. (Leviticus 15:19, 25-28)
107. A human corpse and anyone who comes near it is ritually unclean. (Numbers 19:11-16)
143. The priests must receive their share of all dean animals that are slaughtered. (Deuteronomy 18:3)
144. The priests must receive the first fleece from the shearing of sheep. (Deuteronomy 18:4)
145. Anything devoted to Yahweh becomes Most Holy to Yahweh and becomes the property of the sanctuary of Yahweh and the priests. (Leviticus 27:28)
146. To be fit for consumption, clean animals must be slaughtered. (Do not eat what dies of itself or is killed by wild beasts.) (Deuteronomy 12:21)
147. The blood of slaughtered clean animals must be poured on the ground and covered with earth. (Leviticus 17:10-16)
148. Set the mother bird free when taking the nest or the young. (Deuteronomy 22:6-7)
149. Examine the meat of animals to make sure it is permitted for consumption. (Leviticus 11:2-8)
150. Examine fowl to make sure they are permitted for consumption. (Deuteronomy 14:11-19)
151. Examine locusts to make sure they are permitted for consumption. (Leviticus 11:20-23)
152. Examine fish to make sure they are permitted for consumption. (Leviticus 11:9-12)
156. Remove all leaven from all your property by the fifteenth of Abib. (Exodus 12:15)
157. On the fifteenth day of Abib we must teach our children the story of The Exodus from Egypt. (Exodus 13:8)
222. Divorce can only be for the cause of premarital fornication by the bride. (Deuteronomy 24:1-4)
223. A woman suspected of adultery must submit to the required test. (Numbers 5:12-15)
89. Do not offer sacrifices or Tithes and Offerings except to the sanctuary of Yahweh. (Deuteronomy 12:13-14)
90. Do not offer consecrated animals except to the sanctuary of Yahweh. (Leviticus 17:3-7)
91. Do not sanctify a blemished animal as an Offering to Yahweh. (Leviticus 22:20, 22, 24)
92. Do not slaughter a blemished animal as an Offering to Yahweh. (Leviticus 22:22)
93. Do not sprinkle the blood of a blemished animal on the altar of Yahweh. (Leviticus 22:19-24)
94. Do not burn the sacrificial portions of a blemished animal. (Leviticus 22:22)
95. Do not offer an animal with even a temporary blemish. (Deuteronomy 17:1)
96. Do not accept a blemished offering from a Gentile. (Leviticus 22:25)
97. Do not inflict a blemish on an animal consecrated as an offering. (Leviticus 22:21)
140. Do not eat any abominable thing, whether unclean meat or blemished Offerings. (Deuteronomy 14:3)

171. Do not shave your head in honor of the dead. (Deuteronomy 14:1; Leviticus 21:5)
172. Do not eat any unclean animal. (Deuteronomy 14:7-8)
173. Do not eat any unclean fish or seafood. (Leviticus 11:10-12)
174. Do not eat any unclean fowl. (Leviticus 11:13)
175. Do not eat any unclean flying insect. (Leviticus 11:20-23)
176. Do not eat any insects that creep on the ground. (Leviticus 11:41)
177. Do not eat any reptiles. (Leviticus 11:44)
178. Do not eat worms found in fruit or produce. (Leviticus 11 :42)
179. Do not eat any swarming insects. (Leviticus 11:43; Deuteronomy 14:19)
180. Do not eat any animal found already dead. (Deuteronomy 14:21)
181. Do not eat a torn or mauled animal. (Exodus 22:31)
182. Do not eat any meat with the blood still in it; neither eat any meat not fully cooked. Only when meat is cooked until it is white inside with no tinge of red or pink whatsoever insures that all blood had been removed. (Deuteronomy 12:23)
183. Do not touch the carcass of an unclean animal. (Leviticus 11:8)
184. Do not eat blood. (Leviticus 7:26-27)
185. Do not eat the fat of sacrificed animals. (Leviticus 7:23, 25)
186. Do not boil a young goat in its mother's milk, since it is a ritual of godworshipers (those who worship false gods). (Exodus 23:19)
187. Do not eat of or offer any sacrifices to the gods (false gods). (Leviticus 17:7)
188. Do not eat the meat of a bull that has been stoned to death for goring someone. (Exodus 21:28)
189. Do not eat any bread in celebration of the Feast until the Omer Offering has been presented to the priests on the fifteenth of Abib. (Leviticus 23:14, 10)
190. Do not eat any parched grain in celebration of the Feast until the Omer Offering has been presented to the priests on the fifteenth of Abib. (Leviticus 23:14)
191. Do not eat of the fresh green ears in celebration of the Feast until the Omer Offering has been presented to the priests on the fifteenth of Abib. (Leviticus 23:14)
192. Do not eat the fruit of young fruit trees for the first three years of growth. (Leviticus 19:23)
193. Do not eat the produce from the planting of mixed seed. (Deuteronomy 22:9)
194. Do not partake of drink offerings to the gods (false gods). (Deuteronomy 32:38)
195. Drunkenness of any sort is prohibited. (Deuteronomy 21:20)
196. Do not eat or drink anything on the Day of Atonement. (Leviticus 23:29, 32)
197. Do not eat leavened bread during The Feast of Unleavened Bread. (Exodus 13:3)
198. Do not eat any leavened product during The Feast of Unleavened Bread. (Exodus 12:20)
199. Do not eat leavened bread with the Passover Lamb. (Deuteronomy 16:3)
200. No leavened bread is to be found in any of our possessions during The Feast of Unleavened Bread. (Exodus 13:7)
201. No leavening is to be found in any of our possessions during The Feast of Unleavened Bread. (Exodus 12:19)
210. Do not harvest the corners of a field; they are for the poor. (Leviticus 23:22)
211. Do not gather the gleanings of a field; they are for the poor. (Leviticus 23:22)
212. Do not gather all the olives from the trees, the remaining are for the poor. (Deuteronomy 24:20)
213. Do not gather all the grapes from the vineyard; the remaining are for the poor. (Leviticus 19:10)
214. Do not return to pick up a forgotten sheaf from a field; it is for the poor. (Deuteronomy 24:19)
215. Do not plant a field with two kinds of seed. (Leviticus 19:19)
216. Do not plant a vineyard with two kinds of seed. (Deuteronomy 22:9)
217. Do not crossbreed different species of animals. (Leviticus 19:19)
218. Do not work with two different species of animals yoked together. (Deuteronomy 22:10)
219. Do not muzzle the ox that treads out the grain. (Deuteronomy 25:4)
220. Do not till the earth or sow the fields in the seventh year. (Leviticus 25:4)
221. Do not prune your vineyard or trees in the seventh year. (Leviticus 25:4)
222. Do not reap your harvest in the seventh year. (Leviticus 25:5)
223. Do not gather the grapes of the untended vine in the seventh year. (Leviticus 25:5)
224. Do not till the earth or sow the fields in the Jubilee year. (Leviticus 25:11)
225. Do not reap the harvest in the Jubilee year. (Leviticus 25:11)
226. Do not gather the grapes of the untended vines in the Jubilee year. (Leviticus 25:11)

[Mestemia]

Rom 14:14
I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

[FatMan]

I think Mestemia's list is the closest thing I've seen to a debate stopper in a long time. That is a hard post to ignore and still charge forward with the assumptions of the OP.

Good work.

[doppelgänger]

Originally Posted by d.n.irvin

What part of His law changes?

Whichever part(s) one wants to change.

[FFH]

Originally Posted by Draka

So you want to know why people don't follow the directives of the 4th commandment and not work on Saturday? Why there are Christians working on Saturday at places such as McDonald's, gas stations, radio stations, grocery stores, and so on? Does the need for one extra day of pay outweigh God's directive? Or should Christians be willing to forsake that day's pay, and what it may buy them, in order to be in good graces with God? It comes down to which is more important...obeying God and staying in his grace, or having enough money to pay that electric bill that is so high from all the AC you've been using to avoid the heat? That sort of thing?

I make a lot more money not working on Sunday.

I've tried it both ways and I always end up losing if I work Sunday..

I told them here at work, I don't care, put a gun to my head, I'm not working on Sunday...

I will never work another Sunday again...

I got in a bad motorcycle accident two years ago after agreeing to work 14 days straight without a break...

My boss tried to do the same thing again after taking a year to recover from that accident and lost over a years worth of pay....

I flat out told him there is no way I would ever do that again and I knew if I did it would be worse for me than before..

He finally quit and I don't have to put up with him buggin' me about it anymore....

God is good ....

I also will not withhold my tithes from him, which also caused me to go into debt...

I caught up on my tithes and refuse to work on Sunday and have plenty of money coming in ...

Plenty of money..

God is good....

[FFH]

If you don't work on Sunday or make others work on Sunday then you are doing pretty good..

The levitical law required a person be stoned if he/she were caught laboring on Sunday...

Look it up...

The consequences are severe, spiritually and financially, if you work on the Sabbath.

Don't mess around with it, especially if you know better, like I did...

[Draka]

Don't clergy work on Sabbath days?

[d.n.irvin]

Friends why the confusion on Moses Ceremonial Laws (some 600 or more) - which Moses gave to the people, and were nailed to the cross(ex. being that Christ was the ultimate sacrifice,therefore no need of sacrificial system any more etc.) and Gods 10 Commandment Law -which were written in stone with Gods own hand. At Sinai God codified his law for all men not just the Israelites. Through an investigation of the Old Testament you will see that Gods chosen people suffered almost exclusively because of Sabbath breaking and Idolatry. Furthermore the Israelites were to introduce The Gospel of Jesus Christ to the world and not keep it to themselves.

If we use the logic that the 10 Commandment Law did not exist before Sinai- Then that would mean- No one on earth knew right from wrong until the 10 commandments were given? So I ask you: Did Cain know it was wrong to kill Abel? yes or no

GOD does not change!

Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

Psalms 89:34 My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.

Psalms 111:7, 8 All his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever.

Malachi 3:6 For I am the Lord, I change not.

John 3:4 Sin is the transgression of the law.

Romans 3:20 By the law is the knowledge of sin.

Romans 7:7 I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.


***The Law sends us to Jesus, to know wrong is to seek a saviour from wrong.

Jesus kept the Law

John 15:10 I have kept my Father's commandments

**All have sinned

Romans 3:23 For All have sinned, and come short of the glory of God

Romans 6:23 The wages of sin is death.

**If God's law could be changed, it would not have been necessary for Jesus to die on the cross

Matthew 19:17 If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments.

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God.

**How do we keep the commandments?

Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Romans 8:3, 4 God sending his own Son ... condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us.

Philippians 1:6 He which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ

**The Old Covenant

Deuteronomy 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

Hebrews 8:8-9 For finding fault with them, he saith, ... I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

The fault with the old covenant was with the people, not with God or His law.
Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

**New Covenant based on Old Covenant

Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make ... saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts.

**The two covenants were agreements between God and His people. The old covenant failed because it was based upon the faulty promises and works of the people.

Exodus 24:7 All that the Lord hath said will we do, and be obedient.
The new covenant succeeds because it is God's law written in the heart and is based upon Jesus' promises and His miracle-working power.
Hebrews 8:10 I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts.
A person's entire nature is changed, so he finds doing God's will a pleasure. Notice that the new covenant is based on the same law, but it is written in a different place (the heart) and based on better promises (God's).

Romans 6:15 What then? Shall we sin (break God's law), because we are not under the law, but under grace? God Forbid

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law


**All are saved by the miracle-working grace of God. But those who are saved, or transformed, by the grace of Jesus will want to obey His law as an expression of their love and thanksgiving to Him.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Romans 13:10 Therefore