Why have Christians forgotten the fourth Commandment? (Earth, exodus, bible)

[d.n.irvin]

Address me with scripture

This room is called "Biblical Debates" is it not. Someone show me in the Bible where God rested on and sanctified the 1st Day of the week. In any Bible or version there of.

[Storm]

Originally Posted by d.n.irvin

Address me with scripture

No. I speak for myself.

EDIT: and as I have already stated, I don't value Scripture in the same way you do. I will not make myself a hypocrite.

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by d.n.irvin

Address me with scripture

Does no good.
You merely sidestep the issue with a non reply response and then start preaching.
Don't believe me?
Try looking at post #41 and your response/preaching to it (post #48).

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by d.n.irvin

Address me with scripture

How about you point out where in the Bible it says that the Sabbath is the seventh day of the week.

Also, are you able to show that what we now call "Saturday" is actually on the same day of the week as God's day of rest as described in Genesis? Which calendar do you use to measure?

If you can't be sure that our week corresponds to the original week anyhow, does it really matter which day you use? If you aren't certain that by back-dating whatever calendar you now use to the creation of the universe, that God's day of rest would fall on a Saturday, what point is there in getting nit-picky?

If, thanks to imprecise calendars and human error, the Saturday and Sunday that you're quibbling over are actually Tuesday and Wednesday to God in the "official" calendar of His judgement, does it really matter which one you pick?

[d.n.irvin]

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

How about you point out where in the Bible it says that the Sabbath is the seventh day of the week.
And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made." Genesis 2:2-3

"The seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God." Exodus 20:10. "And when the sabbath was past, ...very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre." Mark 16:1,2.

Also, are you able to show that what we now call "Saturday" is actually on the same day of the week as God's day of rest as described in Genesis? Which calendar do you use to measure?
The U.S. Naval Observatory reported that there has never been any change in the continuity of the weekly cycle. The Seventh Day Sabbath that we have today is the same that Jesus observed.
If you can't be sure that our week corresponds to the original week anyhow, does it really matter which day you use? If you aren't certain that by back-dating whatever calendar you now use to the creation of the universe, that God's day of rest would fall on a Saturday, what point is there in getting nit-picky?
I can send you a link for more proof if you want...
If, thanks to imprecise calendars and human error, the Saturday and Sunday that you're quibbling over are actually Tuesday and Wednesday to God in the "official" calendar of His judgement, does it really matter which one you pick?

Who is responsible for all of the confusion regarding the Sabbath?

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by d.n.irvin

"The seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God." Exodus 20:10

Fair enough.

Originally Posted by d.n.irvin

The U.S. Naval Observatory reported that there has never been any change in the continuity of the weekly cycle. The Seventh Day Sabbath that we have today is the same that Jesus observed.

You're joking, right?

If you're asserting that the US Naval Observatory, for whatever reason, would be willing to claim that through all history, going back before every single known calendar system, back through the personal reckoning of Adam, Eve and their descendents, back to the creation of the Heavens and the Earth... that every single day has followed in the sequence of "Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday" without interruption or fail, I think you'll have to provide some evidence, both that the US Naval Observatory actually did say this, and of the rationale they used to come to this conclusion... if you want us to take it seriously, that is.

[MaddLlama]

But, Jesus didn't observe the Sabbath. He healed people and performed miracles on the Sabbath.

[d.n.irvin]

Originally Posted by Mestemia

Does no good.
You merely sidestep the issue with a non reply response and then start preaching.
Don't believe me?
Try looking at post #41 and your response/preaching to it (post #48).

In your post you list a portion Moses Ceremonial Laws- in a response to, God changes is laws, Correct

(post #48)Friends why the confusion on Moses Ceremonial Laws (some 600 or more) - which Moses gave to the people, and were nailed to the cross(ex. being that Christ was the ultimate sacrifice,therefore no need of sacrificial system any more etc.) and Gods 10 Commandment Law -which were written in stone with Gods own hand.
At Sinai God codified his law for all men not just the Israelites. Through an investigation of the Old Testament you will see that Gods chosen people suffered almost exclusively because of Sabbath breaking and Idolatry. Furthermore the Israelites were to introduce The Gospel of Jesus Christ to the world and not keep it to themselves.

Did Gods Ten Commandment Law exist before Sinai?- If it did not,Then that would mean- No one on earth knew right from wrong- which also means no one would have sinned- Since sin is transgression of the law. Why would Jesus come to save people from sin if they are not sinning?

The beginning paragraph tries to clear up the difference between Moses Ceremonial Laws and Ordinances vs. Gods Ten Commandment Law. The rest further adds creditability to the validity of the Sabbath.

[MaddLlama]

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

If you're asserting that the US Naval Observatory, for whatever reason, would be willing to claim that through all history, going back before every single known calendar system, back through the personal reckoning of Adam, Eve and their descendents, back to the creation of the Heavens and the Earth... that every single day has followed in the sequence of "Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday" without interruption or fail, I think you'll have to provide some evidence, both that the US Naval Observatory actually did say this, and of the rationale they used to come to this conclusion... if you want us to take it seriously, that is.

That would be pretty silly, since the days of the week we know carry the namesakes of Polytheistic Gods. Are Christians required to observe the sabbath on "Saturn's Day"?