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Old 09-29-2007, 12:24 PM
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Old 09-29-2007, 01:36 PM
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I believe that God chooses everyone, but the person also has to choose God. Some people do reject God in any form.
I don't always use verses for nonbelievers, but this about the only way I can describe it:

Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me.

I have always taken that to mean that although God will not reject someone, the person must accept God.
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Old 09-29-2007, 02:04 PM
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Yeshua chooses according to his and the Bibles own words...according to Pharisee beliefs everyone is invited, which isn't so.

Mat 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Isa 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:28 PM
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I thought you had to choose God. I dont see how God chooses you & call it freewill.
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:19 AM
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I thought you had to choose God. I dont see how God chooses you & call it freewill.
Me personally tried doing a Jonah impression and tried almost everything to run off, God chooses you and destiny brings you back again...
Yet it does make life easier being with God then against (= EGO driven instead of Oneness motivated), those who don't know God, yet choose them self’s, often say the "burden of the lord", where as a true worker of the harvest, enjoys what they get given....
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"I am the way the truth and the life; NO MAN cometh unto the Father BUT BY ME."
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I thought you had to choose God. I dont see how God chooses you & call it freewill.
You may accept or reject God. That is your freewill. Yet unless God accepts you you are not born again or saved from the second death.
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"God" = "Love"

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"Christ" = "God"
"God" = "Love"

"Love is the way the truth and the life; NO MAN cometh unto Love but by Love."
for anyone who hasn't gotten this yet... I must say "dur"
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