The Nephilim (ritual, Earth, creation, genesis, prophet)

[Watcher]

Genesis 6:1-4 When people began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughers were born to them, the sons of God saw that they were fair; and they took wives for themselves of all that they chose. Then the Lord said "My spirit shall not abide in mortals forever, for they are flesh; their days shall be one hundred and twenty years." The Nephilim were on the earth in these days-and also afterwards- when the sons of God went in to the daughters of humans who bore children to them. These were the heroes of old, warriors of reknown.

Nephilim translates to "those who fell from the sky" basically. Now, if I am reading this correctly, angels decided that they needed to breed with women (who can blame them ). This made God decide to needed to not as live as long also. The nephilim are the byproducts of angel/human reproduction then??? This is slightly confusing... So are these the angels that were cast down with Lucifer? Doesn't the book of Enoch also refer to something like this? I remember looking at a book about the Dead Sea Scrolls and Enoch refered to the "Watchers" (no, I am a different type of Watcher then this). Any other thoughts about the Nephilim? I read a David Icke book not long ago. He thinks that the Nephilim are aliens . It was a slightly wierd book....
So about the Nephilim, they were able to bread with people, yet they came from god. If they are in another dimension or something like that, how could they?

[SoulTYPE]

They can breed spiritually, Watcher. They do not need to perform er.."intimate contact" to do so.

[Watcher]

Originally Posted by SoulTYPE01

They can breed spiritually, Watcher. They do not need to perform er.."intimate contact" to do so.

It says "the nephilim were on earth in these days."
Are the nephilim connected with the giants we hear about in the Bible (ex. Goliath)

[Druidus]

Goliath is well within the range of a disease called "Gigantism". It is caused by a defect in your pituitary gland, which causes growth hormones to be released long after they should have ceased. This also causes the pituitary gland to swell, which can cause eye damage, and even blindness. Goliath may have had poor vision, and that could explain why David won so easily.

Maybe the Nephilim were another species of human, perhaps Homo Robustus (being rather tall and robust) or Neanderthal. It's stretching, but maybe it was an unknown species. Maybe they were aliens?

If they were aliens they could have used nuclear fusion engines to fly, or had nuclear weapons on their ship. They could have crashed, and exploded, causing the two layers of glass that appear to have been nuclearly fused (but it was far too old for us too have done it modernly). Maybe that would explain the Vimana told of by the Hindus (I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong.) The Holy Books also told of "spears with all the power of the universe" that could destroy entire cities. Nukes?

*Edited because it's not Vimnas, but Vimana*

[Watcher]

Originally Posted by Druidus

Maybe they were aliens?

If they were aliens they could have used nuclear fusion engines to fly, or had nuclear weapons on their ship. They could have crashed, and exploded, causing the two layers of glass that appear to have been nuclearly fused (but it was far too old for us too have done it modernly). Maybe that would explain the Vimnas told of by the Hindus (I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong.) The Holy Books also told of "spears with all the power of the universe" that could destroy entire cities. Nukes?

Wow, I've never heard of the Vimnas. I will have to look that up. David Icke thought that they were aliens in his book. Thanks for the info Druidus.

[Druidus]

"The Vedas, ancient Hindu poems, thought to be the oldest of all the Indian texts, describe vimanas of various shapes and sizes: the 'ahnihotra-vimana' with two engines, the 'elephant-vimana' with more engines, and other types named after the kingfisher, ibis and other animals."
- D. Hatcher Childress, "Ancient Indian Aircraft Technology"
In The Anti-Gravity Handbook

"One time while King Citaketu was traveling in outer space on a brilliantly effulgent airplane given to him by Lord Vishnu, he saw Lord Siva..."
"The arrows released by Lord Siva appeared like fiery beams emanating from the sun globe and covered the three residential airplanes, which could then no longer be seen."
- Srimad Bhagasvatam, Sixth Canto, Part 3

"Dense arrows of flame, like a great shower, issued forth upon creation, encompassing the enemy....A thick gloom swiftly settled upon the Pandava hosts. All points of the compass were lost in darkness. Fierce winds began to blow. Clouds roared upward, showering dust and gravel.
"Birds croaked madly...the very elements seemed disturbed. The sun seemed to waver in the heavens. The earth shook, scorched by the terrible violent heat of this weapon. Elephants burst into flame and ran to and fro in a frenzy...over a vast area, other animals crumpled to the ground and died. From all points of the compass the arrows of flame rained continuously and fiercely." "Gurkha, flying in his swift and powerful Vimana, hurled against the three cities of the Vrishnis and Andhakas a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as the thousand suns rose in all its splendour...An iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas....The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. The hair and nails fell out; pottery broke without apparent cause, and the birds turned white....After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected.... To escape from this fire, the soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment..."
- The Mahabharata

Holy Crap!!!! That last one is amazing! It says that the Vimana hurled the projectile at the exact place that we found the huge layer of ancient fused glass! It lists the effects of a nuke as well!

"Cuka, flying on board a high-powered vimana, hurled on to the triple city a single projectile charged with all the power of the universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame, as bright as ten thousand suns, rose in all the splendor... When the vimana returned to Earth, it looked like a splendid block of antimony resting on the ground."
- Mausola Purva

The surprising thing about these drawings, drawn using the specs written the the Indian Holy Books? Technically, they are capable of flight.

[Ceridwen018]

Watcher,

This exact thing has bugged me for a long time, because--correct me if I'm wrong-- but getting rid of the angel/humans was one of the motives behind the 'Great Flood'. It never seemed fair to me that God would allow the angels to breed with humans and then kill them all because he didn't like the result.

I also find it incredibly humorous, that many religious people who take the bible literally and sing of it's prophetic accuracy, fail to actually compare the bible's claims to reality.

"Yes, well the Lord hath proclaimed that no human would ever live past the age of 120 years, and it is so!"

"...Um, actually the Guiness Book of World Records just recorded a guy who was 123 years old..."

[Druidus]

"Yes, well the Lord hath proclaimed that no human would ever live past the age of 120 years, and it is so!"

"...Um, actually the Guiness Book of World Records just recorded a guy who was 123 years old..."

Christian: Maybe he forgot his age and just guessed.

lol

[may]

Originally Posted by Ceridwen018

Watcher,

l

"Yes, well the Lord hath proclaimed that no human would ever live past the age of 120 years, and it is so!"

"...Um, actually the Guiness Book of World Records just recorded a guy who was 123 years old..."

In Noah’s day, Jehovah declared: "My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years." (Genesis 6:3) The issuance of this divine decree in 2490 B.C.E. marked the beginning of the end for that ungodly world. Just think what that meant for those then living! Only 120 years more and Jehovah would bring "the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh in which the force of life is active from under the heavens."—Genesis 6:17

Noah received the warning of the upcoming catastrophe decades in advance, and he wisely used the time to prepare for survival. "After being given divine warning of things not yet beheld," says the apostle Paul, "[Noah] showed godly fear and constructed an ark for the saving of his household." (Hebrews 11:7) so this is what the 120 years refers to.

[may]

Originally Posted by Watcher

Genesis 6:1-4 When people began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughers were born to them, the sons of God saw that they were fair; and they took wives for themselves of all that they chose. Then the Lord said "My spirit shall not abide in mortals forever, for they are flesh; their days shall be one hundred and twenty years." The Nephilim were on the earth in these days-and also afterwards- when the sons of God went in to the daughters of humans who bore children to them. These were the heroes of old, warriors of reknown.

Nephilim translates to "those who fell from the sky" basically. Now, if I am reading this correctly, angels decided that they needed to breed with women (who can blame them ). This made God decide to needed to not as live as long also. The nephilim are the byproducts of angel/human reproduction then??? This is slightly confusing... So are these the angels that were cast down with Lucifer? Doesn't the book of Enoch also refer to something like this? I remember looking at a book about the Dead Sea Scrolls and Enoch refered to the "Watchers" (no, I am a different type of Watcher then this). Any other thoughts about the Nephilim? I read a David Icke book not long ago. He thinks that the Nephilim are aliens . It was a slightly wierd book....
So about the Nephilim, they were able to bread with people, yet they came from god. If they are in another dimension or something like that, how could they?

Mighty

Ones of Old, Men of Fame

The disobedient materialized angels had sexual relations with women, and the women bore children. These were not ordinary children. They were Nephilim, half human and half angel. The Bible account says: "The Nephilim proved to be in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of the true God continued to have relations with the daughters of men and they bore sons to them, they were the mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame."—Genesis 6:4.

The Hebrew word "nephilim" literally means "fellers," those who fell others, or who cause others to fall, through violent acts. Thus, it is not surprising that the Bible account adds: "The earth became filled with violence." (Genesis 6:11) The mythological demigods, such as Heracles and the Babylonian hero Gilgamesh, strongly resemble Nephilim.

Notice that the Nephilim were called "mighty ones" and "men of fame." Unlike the righteous man Noah, who lived in the same period, the Nephilim were not interested in promoting the fame of Jehovah. They were interested in their own fame, glory, and reputation. Through mighty acts, which undoubtedly involved violence and bloodshed, they earned the fame they craved from the ungodly world around them. They were the superheroes of their day—feared, respected, and seemingly invincible.

While the Nephilim and their debased angelic fathers may have enjoyed fame in the eyes of their contemporaries, they certainly were not famous in God’s sight. Their way of life was detestable. Consequently, God acted against the fallen angels. The apostle Peter wrote: "God did not hold back from punishing the angels that sinned, but, by throwing them into Tartarus, delivered them to pits of dense darkness to be reserved for judgment; and he did not hold back from punishing an ancient world, but kept Noah, a preacher of righteousness, safe with seven others when he brought a deluge upon a world of ungodly people."—2 Peter 2:4, 5.

At the global Flood, the rebellious angels dematerialized and returned in disgrace to the spirit realm. God punished them by prohibiting them from again materializing human bodies. The Nephilim, the superhuman offspring of the disobedient angels, all perished. Only Noah and his small family survived the Deluge