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What follows is a study of works that will be judged at the Judgement Seat of Christ. This addresses the salvation by works/faith idea. The first reply will be the easy-reading abridged version of the second reply. This is the same text without the scriptural references. I think it will be easier to get the gist of what I'm saying without being bogged down by the quotes. I do ask if you wish to debate this that you at least read and ponder the references. Thanks, Sandy
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Righteousness by Faith

Judgement day will come for every one of us. Each of us will come before the judgement seat of Christ and will be judged according to our works. The eternal destination of every person will be finalized there.

Judgement will be according to law for both the Jew and the Gentile. There are two sets of laws that we can be judged by, the Mosaic Law and the law of faith. Unfortunately no one is justified under the Mosaic Law. The law was given because of transgressions and under the law, all are found guilty.

Still, scripture points out that, at the judgement seat, those whose have done good works will enter into eternal life. So the question arises, how can anyone be judged righteous by their works when the Bible is clear that no one is justified by works of the Mosaic Law. Scripture states that only by faith can we be found righteous in the eyes of God. Without the works of the law, faith is counted for righteousness.

What we are left with then is reconciling the concept of righteousness by faith and righteousness by good works on the day of judgement. At the judgement seat we need to be judged not by the works of the Law of Moses but by the law of faith in order to be found righteous. The faith of Christ, upon belief in Him, imputes righteousness unto you as well as creates in you the ability to do works worthy of being called righteous in the eyes of God. This happens because God separates the works of our flesh (which are judged under the Mosaic Law) from the works of the Spirit of God indwelling us (which are judged by the law of faith). According to God that part of us that commits sin is dead as are the works done in the flesh.

The good works that we are lead to do happen because the Spirit of God is dwelling in us. These are the works that will be deemed righteous on the day of judgement and will be rewarded with eternal life. Some say that eternal life is both faith in Christ and good works. In the eyes of God those that believe in Him are created to do good works and the evil works wrought by the flesh are no longer part of our body of works.

Will we be granted eternal life by the faith of Christ? Most certainly. Will believers be found righteous on the day of judgement by our good works? It is impossible to be found otherwise. That’s what believers were created in Christ to do, good works.


“I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.”

Romans 7:25

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Righteousness by Faith

Judgement day will come for every one of us: “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment…” Hebrews 9:27 Each of us will come before the judgement seat of Christ and will be judged according to our works: “For we must all appear before the judgement seat of Christ; that everyone may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.” II Corinthians 5:10 (Also Matthew 16:27, John 5:27-29, Romans 2:5-11, I Peter 1:17, II Peter 2:9, Revelation 20:12 &13) The eternal destination of every person will be finalized there (Matthew 25:31-46).

Judgement will be according to law for both the Jew and the Gentile: “For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; (for not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: which shew the work of the law written in their hearts…) in the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.” Romans 2:12-16

There are two sets of laws that we can be judged by, the Mosaic Law and the law of faith: “By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.” Romans 3:27b (Also Romans 7:25)

Unfortunately no one is justified under the Mosaic Law. The law was given because of transgressions and under the law, all are found guilty. (Romans 3:19) Works done under the Mosaic Law cannot gain an individual eternal life: “…for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.” Gal 2:16b (also Acts 13:39, Romans 3:20, Galatians 3:11, Titus 3:5, Hebrews 7:19, 10:1)

Still, scripture points out that, at the judgement seat, those whose have done good works will enter into eternal life. So the question arises, how can anyone be judged righteous by their works when the Bible is clear that no one is justified by works of the Mosaic Law.

Scripture states that only by faith can we be found righteous in the eyes of God. Without the works of the law, faith is counted for righteousness: “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.” Romans 4:5-7 (Also Romans 5:1, 9:30-31, Galatians 3:24, 5:5, Philippians 3:9, Hebrews 11:7)

What we are left with then is reconciling the concept of righteousness by faith and righteousness by good works on the day of judgement. At the judgement seat we need to be judged not by the works of the Law of Moses but by the law of faith in order to be found righteous: “By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Romans 3:27b-28 (Also Romans 3:21-22, 8:2, Galatians 6:2, 7:22-25, 8:2, James 2:12) The faith of Christ, upon belief in Him, imputes righteousness unto you as well as creates in you the ability to do works worthy of being called righteous in the eyes of God: “For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.”Ephesians 2:10(Also Romans 6:4, 8:29, Galatians 2:20-21,6:15, Ephesians 4:24, Philippians 1:10-11, Titus 3:5, Hebrews 11:32-33, 13:20-21, I John 2:29, 3:9, 3:24, 4:7, 4:16-17, 5:18)

This happens because God separates the works of our flesh (which are judged under the Mosaic Law) from the works of the Spirit of God indwelling us (which are judged by the law of faith) (Romans 7:15-25). According to God that part of us that commits sin is dead as are the works done in the flesh: “Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him [Christ], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.” Romans 6:6(also Romans 6:11, 7:5, 8:10, 8:13, Galatians 5:24, Colossians 3:9-10, I Peter 4:1-2)

The good works that we are lead to do happen because the Spirit of God is dwelling in us. These are the works that will be deemed righteous on the day of judgement and will be rewarded with eternal life. Some say that eternal life is both faith in Christ and good works. In the eyes of God those that believe in Him are created to do good works and the evil works wrought by the flesh are no longer part of our body of works.

Will we be granted eternal life by the faith of Christ? Most certainly. Will believers be found righteous on the day of judgement by our good works? It is impossible to be found otherwise. That’s what believers were created in Christ to do, good works.

“I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.”

Romans 7:25

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Righteousness by Faith

Judgement day will come for every one of us. Each of us will come before the judgement seat of Christ and will be judged according to our works. The eternal destination of every person will be finalized there.

Judgement will be according to law for both the Jew and the Gentile. There are two sets of laws that we can be judged by, the Mosaic Law and the law of faith. Unfortunately no one is justified under the Mosaic Law. The law was given because of transgressions and under the law, all are found guilty.

Still, scripture points out that, at the judgement seat, those whose have done good works will enter into eternal life. So the question arises, how can anyone be judged righteous by their works when the Bible is clear that no one is justified by works of the Mosaic Law. Scripture states that only by faith can we be found righteous in the eyes of God. Without the works of the law, faith is counted for righteousness.

What we are left with then is reconciling the concept of righteousness by faith and righteousness by good works on the day of judgement. At the judgement seat we need to be judged not by the works of the Law of Moses but by the law of faith in order to be found righteous. The faith of Christ, upon belief in Him, imputes righteousness unto you as well as creates in you the ability to do works worthy of being called righteous in the eyes of God. This happens because God separates the works of our flesh (which are judged under the Mosaic Law) from the works of the Spirit of God indwelling us (which are judged by the law of faith). According to God that part of us that commits sin is dead as are the works done in the flesh.

The good works that we are lead to do happen because the Spirit of God is dwelling in us. These are the works that will be deemed righteous on the day of judgement and will be rewarded with eternal life. Some say that eternal life is both faith in Christ and good works. In the eyes of God those that believe in Him are created to do good works and the evil works wrought by the flesh are no longer part of our body of works.

Will we be granted eternal life by the faith of Christ? Most certainly. Will believers be found righteous on the day of judgement by our good works? It is impossible to be found otherwise. That’s what believers were created in Christ to do, good works.


“I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.”

Romans 7:25
The reasoning in this post is completely unclear. No words are defined - judgement, "justified," "Mosiac law," etc.

No biblical basis is given, and no interpretation of any text is discussed.
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2 Judgement day will come for every one of us. Each of us will come before the judgement seat of Christ and will be judged according to our works.
To the contrary: only believers will appear before the judgment seat of Christ

The eternal destination of every person will be finalized there.
To the contrary: eternal destination will not be at issue there

scripture points out that, at the judgement seat, those whose have done good works will enter into eternal life.
Truly truly I say to you: he who hears My word and believes Him who sent Me has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment but's passed out of death into life. An hour's coming and it's now when the dead'll hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear'll live

evil works wrought by the flesh are no longer part of our body of works.
To the contrary: if we say we've not sinned, we deceive ourselves, 1Jn 1:10

Will we be granted eternal life by the faith of Christ? Most certainly.
cuz eternal life's in me, my spirit's life now cuz o' righteousness

Will believers be found righteous on the day of judgement by our good works? It is impossible to be found otherwise.
To the contrary: believers' judgment's separate frum unregenerate (2 Cor 5:10; Rm 14:12; and Rv 20:11; Mt 25:46; Jn 5:29).
And some (many?) saints will hear "evil and slothful slave/ I never approved you. Cast out the useless slave into the outer darkness. In that place there'll be the weeping and gnashing o' teeth/Depart from Me you workers of lawlessness" Mt 7:21-23; 25:14-30.
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The reasoning in this post is completely unclear. No words are defined - judgement, "justified," "Mosiac law," etc.
Judgement: the act of judging

Judge: to pass sentance according to law

Justified: to be found guiltless

Mosaic Law: puhlease.
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