thou shalt not kill or thou shalt not murder (Biblical, verse)

[jewscout]

Now most would say it is translated as "Thou shalt not murder" but this was brought up in another thread...is there a difference? In the Biblical context? is there a difference between Killing and Murdering??

[evearael]

The professor that taught the ethics class brought that verse up... In my opinion, murder is purposeful killing without justice.

[Victor]

Originally Posted by evearael

The professor that taught the ethics class brought that verse up... In my opinion, murder is purposeful killing without justice.

That's my stance on it as well. There is certainly justified killing. Try to stab me or shoot me and I will not refrain. I will turn my cheek and let you slap me in most cases, but not when you want to take my life.

Some people seem to have difficulty with combining those two.

[Willamena]

Originally Posted by jewscout

Now most would say it is translated as "Thou shalt not murder" but this was brought up in another thread...is there a difference? In the Biblical context? is there a difference between Killing and Murdering??

Well, "Thou shalt not kill" makes no sense as then everyone would starve to death.

I believe the intent of the words is the same in each phrase.

[kateyes]

I think there is a difference--and I know there is alot of discussion about this in relation to the 10 comandments. So in my mind (for what its worth) murder-is taking a life with deliberate intent, with malice, and premeditation. In general I think most people think murder can only be applied to humans--my personal belief is that it can also apply to animals. Killing in my mind tends to be accidentally causing death-and/or slaughtering animals raised for food, stepping on a bug--things along those lines. Since I am a carnivore I prefer not to think of slaughtering cows and pigs for butchering as murder--

[Victor]

Originally Posted by Willamena

Well, "Thou shalt not kill" makes no sense as then everyone would starve to death.

I believe the intent of the words is the same in each phrase.

Vegans seem to be doing just fine.
Were you being silly or do you really think it was being that broad?

[sparkyluv]

Kill and murder on the surface mean the same thing. rasah (the original hebrew) can be used for either one

"He was killed by someone with a knife" or "He was murdered by someone with a knife" both mean "Someone stabbed him and he died."

Either way, taking the life of another human being, intentional or unintentional, is still a sin.

[Victor]

Originally Posted by sparkyluv

Kill and murder on the surface mean the same thing. rasah (the original hebrew) can be used for either one

"He was killed by someone with a knife" or "He was murdered by someone with a knife" both mean "Someone stabbed him and he died."

Either way, taking the life of another human being, intentional or unintentional, is still a sin.

Then I would more assuredly commit a sin if someone trys to kill me unjustly. Perhaps you can show us an example from the Bible where a justified killing was considered a sin?

[Willamena]

Originally Posted by Victor

Vegans seem to be doing just fine.
Were you being silly or do you really think it was being that broad?

So... vegetables aren't life-forms?

I was a bit facetious in the first line, but not in the second.