So You Believe Everything In The Bible? (moral, Leviticus, Deuteronomy)

[DrM]

So you believe everything in the Bible is literally true?

Then you believe it's a sin to eat pork or shellfish, or for a man to shave his beard, and that those who work on the Sabbath should be put to death?

Even under Christ's New Covenant, the New Testament is still the literal word of God isn't it?

So you believe anyone who marries after divorce commits adultery (Mark 10:11); that women must remain silent, not teach, and have no authority over men (1Tim 2:11); and that slaves must obey their masters at all times (Col. 3:22).

And if the New Covenant freed us from the regulations of the Old Testament, doesn't that do away with all three of its anti-gay passages?

So when Leviticus prescribes death for all adulterers and for all who curse their parents just before it prescribes the same penalty for any man who lies with another man, each of those moral laws applies to us today?

And when Deuteronomy prescribes death for non-virgin brides shortly before it claims no homosexual shall be a son of Israel, you agree with both those moral laws?

So you DO pick and choose which parts of the Bible to believe. Since fundamentalists are rarely confronted with these and other troubling Biblical passages, most sincerely think they believe every word of the Bible.

When has Jerry Falwell called for the stoning for Ronald and Nancy Reagan, Pete and Gayle Wilson, and everyone else who has remarried after divorce?

When has the Christian Coalition ever organized to ban women from teaching positions and from elected office?

No, it's selective prejudice and old-fashioned fear of the unknown.

[Dayv]

oohoohoo, well said DrM, I've argued similar points all to often.

[DrM]

Originally Posted by Dayv

oohoohoo, well said DrM, I've argued similar points all to often.

Thank you.

[The Voice of Reason]

Oh goodness no - I mean, I believe in the Bible, but some parts are not to be taken seriously - no wait - I mean, God wasn't kidding, so yes, I take it literally - no wait - I shave, so that can't be it - now I've got it - God gave me free will to shave my beard, so that must be what he meant - no wait, then homosexuals would have an argument, so that can't be right - now I've got it - only the old testament is to be taken literally - I'm sorry, I meant the new testament - silly me - I meant the King James version - dang it - I meant the....

Hell, I'm lost. I can't even remember if I shaved my dog's butt this morning. Anyone got any Dramamine?

TVOR

[linwood]

Anyone got any Dramamine?

If I keep hanging out here I`m going to need something stronger.

[true blood]

Originally Posted by DrM

So you believe everything in the Bible is literally true?

Then you believe it's a sin to eat pork or shellfish, or for a man to shave his beard, and that those who work on the Sabbath should be put to death?

Even under Christ's New Covenant, the New Testament is still the literal word of God isn't it?

So you believe anyone who marries after divorce commits adultery (Mark 10:11); that women must remain silent, not teach, and have no authority over men (1Tim 2:11); and that slaves must obey their masters at all times (Col. 3:22).

And if the New Covenant freed us from the regulations of the Old Testament, doesn't that do away with all three of its anti-gay passages?

So when Leviticus prescribes death for all adulterers and for all who curse their parents just before it prescribes the same penalty for any man who lies with another man, each of those moral laws applies to us today?

And when Deuteronomy prescribes death for non-virgin brides shortly before it claims no homosexual shall be a son of Israel, you agree with both those moral laws?

So you DO pick and choose which parts of the Bible to believe. Since fundamentalists are rarely confronted with these and other troubling Biblical passages, most sincerely think they believe every word of the Bible.

When has Jerry Falwell called for the stoning for Ronald and Nancy Reagan, Pete and Gayle Wilson, and everyone else who has remarried after divorce?

When has the Christian Coalition ever organized to ban women from teaching positions and from elected office?

No, it's selective prejudice and old-fashioned fear of the unknown.

I think you need to actually study the bible before you draw your conclusions. Learn a little Hebrew. Learn a little Greek. If your going to draw your conclusions before doing that, you in fact are using selective prejudice and expressing fear of the unknown.

[DrM]

Originally Posted by true blood

I think you need to actually study the bible before you draw your conclusions. Learn a little Hebrew. Learn a little Greek. If your going to draw your conclusions before doing that, you in fact are using selective prejudice and expressing fear of the unknown.

This is the 2nd time in my short tenure with this forum that someone has insinuated that I know pretty much nothing about what I speak.

I have (ahem) studied a "little bit of Greek and a "little bit" of Hebrew. So, I do not draw conclusions out of a vacuum as you suggest. I am quite well aware of what I write. I do use selective prejudice based on logic and reason. Perhaps it is you who is reading my words with selective prejudice?

[DrM]

Oh, I almost forgot. . . . . .Who can affirm what the Greeks and the Hebrews write as knowledge beyond reproach?

[Jaymes]

If you can't argue against the Bible without knowing Greek and Hebrew, shouldn't the same argument be made for those that believe what it says is true? How is their argument valid if they don't hold themselves to the same standards as non-believers?

/off-topic thought

Kudos, DrM. I've been looking for a way to say what you've said so eloquently for a very long time... I have a feeling I'll be linking to this post quite a bit in the future!

[DrM]

Originally Posted by Jensa

If you can't argue against the Bible without knowing Greek and Hebrew, shouldn't the same argument be made for those that believe what it says is true? How is their argument valid if they don't hold themselves to the same standards as non-believers?

/off-topic thought

Kudos, DrM. I've been looking for a way to say what you've said so eloquently for a very long time... I have a feeling I'll be linking to this post quite a bit in the future!

Thank you for your kind words!!