Do you think god committed murder? (Earth, creation, genesis, bible)

[ProfLogic]

Genesis:

6:7 Yahweh said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the surface of the ground; man, along with animals, creeping things, and birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them."

6:12 God saw the earth, and saw that it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth.

6:13 God said to Noah, "The end of all flesh has come before me, for the earth is filled with violence through them. Behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

Well sounds like a confession in my book. In todays society rehabilitation is one way to humanely treat a criminal. It looks like it did not give humans any chance.. if the story was even true. Again it decided to exempt one person.. sounds like a trend of favoritism and helplessness. It needs to involve someone else to achieve anything even murder.

[sojourner]

No. Life is God's possession to deal with as God pleases. Your life, my life -- the life of every person belongs, not to us, but to God. Murder happens when humans take human life.

God did not utterly destroy humanity...God saved a remnant of humanity -- one that had remained close to God. The flood is a judgment of humanity, not of individuals, so the saving of the remnant is an act of mercy.

Again, you can't argue theology if you don't have a basis from which to argue.

[jewscout]

as i've said before...for someone who doesn't believe that G-d exists, you sure do spend alot of time talking about Him

[fromthe heart]

Originally Posted by sojourner

No. Life is God's possession to deal with as God pleases. Your life, my life -- the life of every person belongs, not to us, but to God. Murder happens when humans take human life.

God did not utterly destroy humanity...God saved a remnant of humanity -- one that had remained close to God. The flood is a judgment of humanity, not of individuals, so the saving of the remnant is an act of mercy.

Again, you can't argue theology if you don't have a basis from which to argue.

I agree we are not our own...we the things we have and the whole earth and all we can see in teh heavens ARE God's creation and thus it's not murder for God to have us ALL gone from His sight. Murder is something humans do to other humans...not the same in respects to God.

[ProfLogic]

Originally Posted by jewscout

as i've said before...for someone who doesn't believe that G-d exists, you sure do spend alot of time talking about Him

Well in order to discredit a thing, one need to unfortunately refer to it.

[ProfLogic]

Originally Posted by sojourner

No. Life is God's possession to deal with as God pleases. Your life, my life -- the life of every person belongs, not to us, but to God. Murder happens when humans take human life.

God did not utterly destroy humanity...God saved a remnant of humanity -- one that had remained close to God. The flood is a judgment of humanity, not of individuals, so the saving of the remnant is an act of mercy.

Again, you can't argue theology if you don't have a basis from which to argue.

If thats the case, it will do as it pleases anyways, so whats the point. In other words it wants people to behave the way that it sees. Hmmmm sounds like a manipulator to me... Godd did not utter well it admitted that it will destroy humanity. The translated bible states so so why is there no basis for it. It did not like what it saw so it killed humanity. So a parent that bore you can kill you and that is not murder, is that what you are saying?

[SoyLeche]

mur·der ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mûrdr)
n.

1. The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.
2. Slang. Something that is very uncomfortable, difficult, or hazardous: The rush hour traffic is murder.
3. A flock of crows. See Synonyms at flock1.

I'm guessing you're not talking about a flock of crows, so we'll go with definition #1. Since God is the one defining what is and is not lawful, it's pretty much impossible for him to do anything unlawful. Has God killed people? Yes. Has God murdered? No.

[SoyLeche]

Originally Posted by ProfLogic

If thats the case, it will do as it pleases anyways, so whats the point. In other words it wants people to behave the way that it sees. Hmmmm sounds like a manipulator to me... Godd did not utter well it admitted that it will destroy humanity. The translated bible states so so why is there no basis for it. It did not like what it saw so it killed humanity. So a parent that bore you can kill you and that is not murder, is that what you are saying?

Try again - I can't make heads or tails of what you are trying to say in this one.

[sojourner]

Originally Posted by ProfLogic

If thats the case, it will do as it pleases anyways, so whats the point. In other words it wants people to behave the way that it sees. Hmmmm sounds like a manipulator to me... Godd did not utter well it admitted that it will destroy humanity. The translated bible states so so why is there no basis for it. It did not like what it saw so it killed humanity. So a parent that bore you can kill you and that is not murder, is that what you are saying?

No. God remains faithful to God's covenants. God wants us to live as God created us to live, knowing that our lives are God's and that our purposes are to glorify God. God establishes covenantal relationships with humanity in which promises are made that God keeps faithfully. Nothing manipulative about it.

Because of our willful misconduct, we are told that God was sorry God had created us. Yet...God did not destroy humanity, but saved the good and did away with the evil. It's not literal, it's a metaphor that shows us how God "cleans house" within humanity, purifying humanity through God's faithful people.

The story isn't about killing people, it's about eradicating evil.

[jewscout]

Originally Posted by ProfLogic

Well in order to discredit a thing, one need to unfortunately refer to it.

the problem is you haven't...otherwise, if you did, we'd have scores of theists giving up their faiths....

again...so much you ignore and simply choose to take a literalist and highly cynical approach to the scriptures and then fill in the blanks with what you desire to see, not what is actually there.