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Old 11-04-2004, 07:21 PM
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I think he means this type of bashing. He never singled one particular religion, but you guys seem to single out Christianity as its cause. On the positive side, at least it bothers you because it is better to be noticed negatively than to not be noticed at all
I don't see Jews trying to take over this country.

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Old 11-04-2004, 07:43 PM
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leviticus is not abolished

leviticus is used for study but not applical to today

leviticus is for the Jews they have the yoke of the law

Leviticus is under the old testiment the old way and the old covenent

today we live for jesus who is the new testiment the new way and the new covenent
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Old 11-04-2004, 08:00 PM
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leviticus is not abolished

leviticus is used for study but not applical to today

leviticus is for the Jews they have the yoke of the law

Leviticus is under the old testiment the old way and the old covenent

today we live for jesus who is the new testiment the new way and the new covenent
I find it simply amazing that rationalization of this sort would relieve the Christian of the words of Christ in Mark 7

If parts of the Old Testament is only for Jewish following, why is any of it included in the canons - why are maniacal Christians fighting the Constitution to include the Ten Commandments - why are the prophecies spewed throughout the New Testament. More Christians at the cafeteria is all I can think of and it's sad, really sad to be so arrogant about what you do choose to follow.

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Old 11-04-2004, 08:09 PM
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Dogma is the perfect vending machine:
Drop in a quarter.
Wind it up.
And out comes the drivel ...
... all without requiring an ounce of knowledge or understanding of early Christianity.
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Old 11-04-2004, 08:11 PM
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I don't see Jews trying to take over this country.

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Take over? How are Christians trying to take over, if anything they are being asked to stop being Christians and asserting their beliefs. In other words, be a Christian in name but foregoing one's Christian identity.
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Old 11-04-2004, 08:16 PM
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I intentionally dropped this thread months ago after Scott wrote this statement.

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..typical as of late to have a open exchange of ideas somehow turn into Christian bashing.
He wrote it in reply to this...

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The point I`m getting at is why do Christians believe it is right to force others to go against their own moral code?
Now it`s back up again with people implying I`m bashing Christians because they .."believe it is right to force others to go against their own moral code.

I resent it.

Two days ago 11 states voted to install discrimination within their constitutions.
Discrimination based on nothing more than the word of the Bible and some Christians interpretation of it.
People who believe these interpretations are nothing more than myth are now being forced to go agaist their own moral code.

Christianity has yet again forced it`s intolerance upon us all.

Don`t speak to me of "bashing".
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logos try to see this from a non christian prespective. You go to a hotel you get a bible in the room. In some cities in the deep south there are more churches than bars or pubs. The current president spews Christian justifications on a regular basis. Down here in south at least, and when I lived in northern Cali, Christians knock on your door every month. At work I think all of us non-christians have been asked to convert at least once. I have been asked to convert on average once every two months for the last two years. There is fights to get the 10 commandments put into the court AA is a Christian organization. Christanity comes up in interviews (at least in mine), the church has an aggressive recruitment campaign. When you are a Christian I am sure you don't take a 2nd notice to this but if you are a non-christian or worse an athiests you feel constant pressure, even if friendly to convert. Conversion is the act of taking over.
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When you are a Christian I am sure you don't take a 2nd notice to this but if you are a non-christian or worse an athiests you feel constant pressure, even if friendly to convert. Conversion is the act of taking over.
No one can pressure you to do something you do not want to do. If you feel pressure that is your conscience trying to work out whatever it is you feel is right in that situation.
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I find it simply amazing that rationalization of this sort would relieve the Christian of the words of Christ in Mark 7

If parts of the Old Testament is only for Jewish following, why is any of it included in the canons - why are maniacal Christians fighting the Constitution to include the Ten Commandments - why are the prophecies spewed throughout the New Testament. More Christians at the cafeteria is all I can think of and it's sad, really sad to be so arrogant about what you do choose to follow.

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Wow your right I can't believe that jesus told us not to follow the teachings of God oh no my faith is wrong I have been wrong all this time.....

in case you can' t tell I'm being sarcastic

you violated one rule of law when dealing with the bible

you took the passage out of context. but it into context and Mark 7 makes sense
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No one can pressure you to do something you do not want to do. If you feel pressure that is your conscience trying to work out whatever it is you feel is right in that situation.
Walk a mile in the persons shoes you are analysing before you attempt to analyze.
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