Scripturally, Do believers go to heaven? (Jesus Christ, Kingdom, hell, scriptures)

[Aqualung]

Originally Posted by Buttercup

This thread is about who will go to heaven, Squirt....so have at it. That's why we're here. I think most Mormons believe they are the only true church and the rest of us Christians only get to go to a lesser heaven from what i'm gathering.....it's up to you as a long time LDS believer to set the record straight if Aqua can't.

Nope, you summed it up pretty well. But I think it's good to note that by "lesser heaven" it is still absolutely beyond anybody's wildest dreams in terms of hapiness and glory. It's not like everybody else will have to live in the ghettos. They'll still be living in mansions. Just 199 bedroom mansions instead of 200 bedroom mansions.

[Buttons*]

Originally Posted by Aqualung

What is unconditional love? Giving the same reward to people who don't deserve the same reward? I thought unconditional love just meant you would always love that person, not that you would give them what they don't deserve.

I just dont see an all loving God sectioning people off...

HOWEVER, i've heard this argument (multi-layered heaven) from many different christians, not just the LDS church.... Non denominationals and Baptists..... so far...

[Aqualung]

In my house there are many mansions. What can this mean besided a "multi-layered" heaven?

[Buttons*]

Originally Posted by Aqualung

In my house there are many mansions. What can this mean besided a "multi-layered" heaven?

for me it would depend fully on interpretation.

i heard from one of my bible teachers that only a few thousand get into the "real" heaven with God... but then i thought it was a load of crap so i stopped listening.

I dont take things literally.... and i dont follow your book... i dont know what it means in context.... could you site it for me?

[Buttercup]

Originally Posted by Aqualung

Nope, you summed it up pretty well. But I think it's good to note that by "lesser heaven" it is still absolutely beyond anybody's wildest dreams in terms of hapiness and glory. It's not like everybody else will have to live in the ghettos. They'll still be living in mansions. Just 199 bedroom mansions instead of 200 bedroom mansions.

So, all the Christians in the almost 2000 years before Joseph Smith came along get 199 bedrooms, but the righteous Mormons since Joseph Smith get 200? Wow! That man had more power than Jesus himself!

[Aqualung]

John 14: 1-3

Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are menay mansions: if it were not so, I woul dhave told you. I got to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

That was Jesus speaking.

[Aqualung]

Originally Posted by Buttercup

So, all the Christians in the almost 2000 years before Joseph Smith came along get 199 bedrooms, but the righteous Mormons since Joseph Smith get 200? Wow! That man had more power than Jesus himself!

Nope. As I said before, there is salvation after death.

Also, the mormon church is not the only church in the history of the world who has had the priesthood and the authority to do this type of thing.

[Buttercup]

Ok, I'm outta here. I've heard enough.

[dawny0826]

I believe that believers...and when I say believers...I mean those who not only believed in Christ but actually ACCEPTED Christ as their Personal Saviour...go to be with Christ in heaven.

I do not believe in separate levels or types of heaven. I believe in one heaven and one hell.