Scripturally, Do believers go to heaven? (Jesus Christ, Kingdom, hell, scriptures)

[Bick]

May, you are wrong. The book of Revelation ( which should be named "the Unveiling of Christ", for "apokalupsis" in Greek means: "to unveil" or "reveal"), is still in the future, as John, the writer, says in 1:3 "this prophecy".

Also, John clarifies it when in 1:10, he writes, "I came to be in spirit in the Lord's day". He is speaking of the 'Day of the Lord', prophecied in so many OT books, but now the emphasis is the Lord's Day, which is unfolding to John in this vision.

And back in 1:1, the literal rendering reads: "The unveiling of Jesus Christ, which God gives to him, to show to his slaves what must occur swiftly." CV. Not "must occur soon". In the original Gk it is "en taxei", "in haste".

JW's as well as many others, believe Revelation started back at the time of John's writing it, and IMO, this causes so much confusion. In Revelation, we read of the events leading up to Jesus the Messiah returning in power and great glory to destroy his enemies marching against Jerusalem and His people, Israel. They will be the kingdom of priests in the millennium, as head of the nations, and will be used by Christ to evangelize the earth.
But, just think, May, God has a special group being called out since the time of Paul the Apostle: the Church which is the Body of Christ. God has predestined a certain number and one of these days it will be filled, as Paul tells us in Rom.11:25. And the marvelous thing is our blessings are in the heavenlies, not on earth. And that's all because Jesus as the Son of God came down to earth and died on the cross for our sins, was buried and was resurrected, and is now at the right hand of God. Think of it, the church/body will be heirs of God and joint-heirs with Christ. Read Ephesians chapts. 1-4. In the heavenlies we will be witnessing to the principalities, authorities, and powers--spirit beings--the multifarious wisdom of God, in His kindness and grace to us in Christ.
All for now, Bick

[may]

yes the book of revelation means an unvailing or uncovering and that is most certainly happening in this .....The lords day............... it really is being revealed in these the last days ........thrilling times indeed. the kingdom is now well established in the heavens and has been since 1914 inline with bible prophecy and chronology. many things are being revealed to Gods people in these the last days.The sacred secrets of God and other "mysteries" of the Bible, such as that of Babylon the Great, are therefore things, not to be kept secret forever, but to be revealed by Jehovah God in his own time to those who look to him and to whom he chooses to reveal them.

[Moriah Hill]

It only matters what God says. He sets the rules not us. We can philosphise and rationalise things, reason and have our own opinions. He says that anyone who believes in Jesus shall be saved. Simple as that. Believe though isnt just mental agreemant or intectual ascent, but a life devoted to Him and what he says. We've got to live it.

[ProfLogic]

Originally Posted by wmam

I say no.

What do you say?

Believers might be the ones headed for eternal damnation since they believe in a self proclaimed god who kills and murders and also commands believers to adore it.

[may]

Originally Posted by Moriah Hill

It only matters what God says. He sets the rules not us. We can philosphise and rationalise things, reason and have our own opinions. He says that anyone who believes in Jesus shall be saved. Simple as that. Believe though isnt just mental agreemant or intectual ascent, but a life devoted to Him and what he says. We've got to live it.

yes ,you are right it only matters what God says,and yes he does set the rules,but he also says in the bible that in the last days the true knowledge will become abundant . yes the sacred secret and the understanding about it, has been revealed down through the ages . yes its all happening in this time of the end.
As time has passed, Jehovah has made more revelations about the Seed , spoken of in Genesis 3;15
And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel......... yes the bible, from the first book Genesis ,to the last book of the revelation, is all about the first ever prophecy in the bible. Genesis 3;15 that is the theme that runs through the whole of the bible . and it sure has been revealed to those who Jehovah wants to reveal it too
"And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end. Many will rove about, and the [true] knowledge will become abundant Daniel 12;4..... yes Jehovah in his own time reveals many things to those who he chooses
"Do not interpretations belong to God? Genesis 40;8

[may]

Originally Posted by ProfLogic

Believers might be the ones headed for eternal damnation since they believe in a self proclaimed god who kills and murders and also commands believers to adore it.

And there are those believers who believe in a loving God who does not want any to be destroyed,
Jehovah is not slow respecting his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance."—2 Peter 3:9;
Although the Kingdom came to power in 1914, Jehovah did not immediately destroy those who were not serving him. How glad we can be of that! For God’s long-suffering has afforded us the opportunity to take a firm stand for his kingdom, and so escape destruction. and then the promise of a better world with no more wicked people around is what we can be a part of.
(Matthew 25:46) And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.".............. yes, what a loving God to give us all the chance of better things . no more wars ,crime, murder, evil things. the Almighty God Jehovah has set everything in to place ,and it will come true . yes its all happening in this time of the end. the end of wickedness , and the making of all things new
"The One seated on the throne said: ‘Look! I am making all things new.’ Also, he says: . . . ‘These words are faithful and true.’"—REVELATION 21:5.

[wmam]

Originally Posted by blueman

Believers in what/whom? It depends on the object of the belief/faith. If the belief in in Christ death and resurrection, my answer is yes and there is many evidences of this assurance in the biblical record (Holy Bible). Believers in Christ have blessed assurance that they will have eternal life in His kingdom.

Belief in whatever you like..........Of course for the thread here I would suggest that this belief have some sort of "heaven" as part of its doctrine.

Would I then be correct in assuming that you believe that His Kingdom is Heaven? If so, where is it? Everywhere I see the word heaven in Scriptures it has to do with one of the three and no where do I see that we are promised to go to the third one. Please explain.