Jesus and the OT law. (moral, testimony, Leviticus, tradition)

[linwood]

This thread is a split that began to de-rail the Death penalty thread.

I`m answering Kal-El`s response to my claim that Jesus told his apostles that certain laws were not necessary or misunderstood.

Kal-El said...
There it is. Jesus makes no mention of changing any laws set forth in the OT. And you wouldn't want to argue with Jesus would you?

Linwood said...
Try Chapter 15

10 Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and understand. 11What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.' "

16 "Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them. 17"Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man 'unclean.' 19For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him 'unclean.' "

Jesus wasn`t crazy about the dietary laws.

Kal-El said...
Chapter 15 also contains

"Thus you nulify the word of god for the sake of your traditions. You hypocrites! "

He never condemned slavery, homosexuality, killing, and other atrocities. Where are you getting this "Jesus wasn't crazy about dietary laws" articulation? In what you quoted, Jesus ws talking to his disciples, after he was through silencing the Pharisees. He never condemned OT laws. Next argument please.

Have you read Matthew and Leviticus?
If you have not read Matthew and Leviticus there is no point in continuing this until you do.
I`ll assume you have read them for now.

Jesus was clarifying to his disciples his beliefs about what was important about the laws.
He didn`t apparently believe the dietary laws were all that important as he told his disciples it didn`t matter what they ate or whether their hands were clean when they ate.
He didn`t change the law but he told them it wasn`t important to objectively follow it either.
The dietary laws in Leviticus are Gods word yet Jesus told his disciples what they ate was unimportant.
It seemed pretty important to God in Leviticus as he drones on and on about .

I happen to agree with Jesus in this instance.

I don`t know why it would seem odd to you that Jesus taught contradictory philosophy considering it is inherent through Biblical text.

[i believe in tranquility]

good job

i agree

Jesus basically sumed up the old laws into what we know as the 2 greatest