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Old 01-25-2006, 07:23 AM
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All of us see scripture through a distorted perspective. It's like trying on someone else's glasses who have the exact opposite prescription.

You think you have a grip on the situation, but all you really have are the "warm fuzzies". So you increase your determination and have a go at it again: yet your vision worsens as you force the perspective.

The path to revelation and wisdom has at it's core humility, submission and a deep love. No room for warm fuzzies here. It's never easy or pleasant and involves a constant change of your character and core values. There is no rest as you attempt to clear the scales from your eyes and see yourself with a vivid clarity. The picture is never pretty and the changes seem insurmountable.

This path has no end, but it does have quite a number of detours and many of those are dead ends. Once you stop being challenged or changing, you have to find your way back to the path.
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Old 01-25-2006, 08:50 AM
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The thing is that God can work in our lives when we seek God, and work in our hearts and lives even when we can't understand what the Scripture actually says.
I hear you there. My point in my post was...for ME...when I don't understand Scripture and seek HIM for answers...He's never failed to provide me with the warm and fuzzies.

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Interpretation is a science and an art, and it is reserved for those who actually do the work of interpretation.
God speaks to me through his Word...I don't have to be educated in the art or science of interpretation to understand what God is trying to say.
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Old 01-25-2006, 08:56 AM
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Something I learned in my first Probability class:

All models are wrong. Some of them are useful.

The goal then becomes finding a model that is more useful then the next guys.

Everyone needs to realize that their interpretation of the Bible is "wrong". Nobody has it exactly right. So, we do what we can to make what we read useful in our lives.
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Sorta what I said Soyleche, but I like your twist on it!
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I hear you there. My point in my post was...for ME...when I don't understand Scripture and seek HIM for answers...He's never failed to provide me with the warm and fuzzies.


God speaks to me through his Word...I don't have to be educated in the art or science of interpretation to understand what God is trying to say.
There is a difference in what the words say and what God is trying to say. One is interpretation of Scripture, which is understanding the written or recorded words. The Scriptures simply are not written in our langauge or for our culture or for our historical time period. If you want to interpret the Bible, you must either be educated in the art/science of interpretation or read several others who have that education to actually interpret the Bible.

The other is a supernatural encounter that no interpreter can measure with any tool. God is wholly and utterly unreachable by any human effort. By God's grace, and God's grace alone is any of us able to receive anything from God on any level. This is not biblical interpretation but an encounter with the divine.
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I use several translations and they all have their pros and cons I find that the King James Bible contains the moist errors but I still use it. My favorite is the New World Translation that the Jehovahs Witnesses use.
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The other is a supernatural encounter that no interpreter can measure with any tool. God is wholly and utterly unreachable by any human effort. By God's grace, and God's grace alone is any of us able to receive anything from God on any level. This is not biblical interpretation but an encounter with the divine.
Amen to that! The devine chooses to reveal himself to those who submit to his teaching.
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Amen to that! The devine chooses to reveal himself to those who submit to his teaching.
I would add that the Divine reveals "Himself" just as God chooses, with little regard to anything but the divine purpose, if of course we take the Christian Scriptures as a guide. God reveals Himself to the obedient and the disobedient according to his purpose and grace. We can't do anything to earn revelation. It is completely up to God.
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