Is your Biblical interpretation valid? (translation, bible, Satan, God)

[dawny0826]

The scriptures also have irrational events implanted inside them

A non believer probably would view the Bible as containing such.

this is because you depend on one person (God)

This is what being a Christian is about. That's the whole core of faith in God...depending solely upon HIM and not upon ourselves.

quite clearly when it is you (youself) who should be focused on himself and his actions toward other's

Actually, as a Christian...your focus is ON CHRIST and allowing Christ to take the wheel. The focus should not be on YOURSELF but on CHRIST.

the only concrete thought in my statement would be stop praying and make yourself a miracle to other's for once

I can't do that if I'm not in Christ. And Biblically, we're instructed to pray ceaselessly...to take EVERYTHING large and small to Christ in prayer. Miracles come from FAITH in Jesus Christ.

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by dawny0826

Hi Jonny. I've been thinking about this for several days, actually.

You know...I pray every single time I open my Bible for this very reason. I'm comfortable with my interpretation of what I'm reading when I feel spiritual confirmation that I'm understanding things correctly. If I don't understand something and don't feel confident that I'm interpreting a particular verse or verses the way GOD meant the verses to be interpreted...I lift it up in prayer until I receive spiritual confirmation.

I approach the Bible pretty literally...especially with the gospels...I believe totally in the "full gospel" concept.

I think the Bible is FULL of across the board truths that I feel ALL believers should be on the same page on.

God speaks to us through his Word. And although, again...I feel MUCH of the Bible is concrete and the interpretation should, in my opinion be fairly universal...I also feel that God speaks to us on an individual basis with his Word as well. So, when we pray on certain issues in our life or if God needs to tell us something through his Word...I think it's totally possible for two people to have different interpretations of a particular verse in that light. My "right" would be different from your "right" and neither of us would be wrong because God was communicating with us on an individual basis.

Skip all steps and move straight to warm and fuzzy feelings.

Do not pass go, do not collect $200.

Bring the warm and fuzzy, BABY!!

[dawny0826]

Originally Posted by angellous_evangellous

Skip all steps and move straight to warm and fuzzy feelings.

Do not pass go, do not collect $200.

Bring the warm and fuzzy, BABY!!

Gotta love the warm and fuzzies.

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by dawny0826

Gotta love the warm and fuzzies.

I really am "with you" when you get the warm and fuzzies by praying and reading the Bible. Unfortunately, you really have no clue what it really means unless you engage in some kind of critical study, be it following the steps of text criticism, translation, grammatical exegeis, and historical exegsis. You don't live in the first century (for the NT), so there is no way that you can understand what it means unless you understand the first century Mediterranean world, which is a far FAR cry from our world.

Not much is the same. We are human beings. On planet earth. End of comparison.

The thing is that God can work in our lives when we seek God, and work in our hearts and lives even when we can't understand what the Scripture actually says. Interpretation is a science and an art, and it is reserved for those who actually do the work of interpretation.

Watching TV is an act of interpretation, and you can understand it because it is a part of your historical context. Go to another country and watch TV, and you'll have a hard time actually understanding it no matter how warm and fuzzy you feel.

Praying to interpret Scripture is like praying to understand a TV show in another language in a foreign country. The langauge and all of the customs are completely foreign and you honestly have no clue what is going on, but God can go on with his work anyway.

With the Bible in English, we have the TV script only. The gestures, the context, the dynamics, the layers of cultural meanings that have dramatic impact on interpretation are not present. These issues are critical and must be considered if one is to actually interpret the Bible.

Otherwise, we are just saying what makes us feel warm and fuzzy.

Beer and pizza make me warm and fuzzy too.

[blood-lord14]

Originally Posted by dawny0826

A non believer probably would view the Bible as containing such.


This is what being a Christian is about. That's the whole core of faith in God...depending solely upon HIM and not upon ourselves.


Actually, as a Christian...your focus is ON CHRIST and allowing Christ to take the wheel. The focus should not be on YOURSELF but on CHRIST.


I can't do that if I'm not in Christ. And Biblically, we're instructed to pray ceaselessly...to take EVERYTHING large and small to Christ in prayer. Miracles come from FAITH in Jesus Christ.

anyone can do many things without christ,i can run faster then my friends on the track field (without christ),i can eat the hottest mixed spices given (without christ),i can ask redemption on myself from myself (without christ).
just a few examples of my everyday life,why is it you have such faith in trickery? it is god's plan to bring pain upon his children NO?.it is god's plan to make us miss our loved one's NO?.it is righteous to pray for your own revenge on diffrent believers NO?.if i allowed christ to take the wheel he would lose control and probably let me do the impossible.CHRIST brought me misery and no one to love,i can play even GOD is a WORD..oh look the son of man is crying.....that poor kid.IF you don't depend on YOURSELF you go INSANE and DELUSIONAL..the side effects of being christian.im not a non-believer im a believer with nothing.

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by blood-lord14

anyone can do many things without christ,i can run faster then my friends on the track field (without christ),i can eat the hottest mixed spices given (without christ),i can ask redemption on myself from myself (without christ).
just a few examples of my everyday life,why is it you have such faith in trickery? it is god's plan to bring pain upon his children NO?.it is god's plan to make us miss our loved one's NO?.it is righteous to pray for your own revenge on diffrent believers NO?.if i allowed christ to take the wheel he would lose control and probably let me do the impossible.CHRIST brought me misery and no one to love,i can play even GOD is a WORD..oh look the son of man is crying.....that poor kid.IF you don't depend on YOURSELF you go INSANE and DELUSIONAL..the side effects of being christian.im not a non-believer im a believer with nothing.

Um, how does this possibly relate to the OP?

[blood-lord14]

Originally Posted by angellous_evangellous

Um, how does this possibly relate to the OP?

it doesn't...but hey nothing like a fresh argument in the morning eh?.

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by blood-lord14

it doesn't...but hey nothing like a fresh argument in the morning eh?.

Whatever makes you warm and fuzzy.

However, this is a debate thread. As a courtesy, if you want to debate another topic, you can start another thread. I'm not a mod or anything, but I see that you're new.

Happy hunting

[blood-lord14]

Originally Posted by angellous_evangellous

Whatever makes you warm and fuzzy.