Mistranslations of the various Translations of the Scriptures. (Moses, Earth)

[wmam]

Please when showing what you believe to be a mistranslation add from which translation that you quote from.
Others are welcome to refute or defend. Please show proof of either.

I will start this off with................

KJV.........

Exo 15:4 Pharaoh's chariots and his host hath he cast into the sea: his chosen captains also are drowned in the Red sea.

I believe that "Red sea" is a mistranslation. Lets look at the same in Hebrew.

Exo 15:4 מרכבת פרעה וחילו ירה בים ומבחר שׁלשׁיו טבעו בים־סוף׃

What I have enlarged and underlined is Hebrew for Reeds.

H5488
סוּף
sûph
soof
Probably of Egyptian origin; a reed, especially the papyrus: - flag. Red [sea], weed. Compare H5489.

If it were "Red" wouldn't it have been "Adom" instead of "suph"?

Now it's your turn....................

[FFH]

According to the Joseph Smith translation, this scripture is correct.

It was probably formerly known as the Reed Sea until certain events caused the name to be changed to the Red Sea.

There is an LDS footnote that seems to suggest the word Reed could be a substitute for the word Red. Either seems to be correct. http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=Exodus+15%3A4

Wasn't Moses pulled from among the reeds, in the Nile, while floating in a basket made of reeds by his Mother? Was it prophetic as to what was going to happen in the future? He and his people would be delivered by the Reed Sea. He was delivered by a Reed basket made by his Mother.

It may have been called the Reed Sea when Moses and the 12 tribes of Isreal crossed over it, but then Pharaoh renamed it the Red Sea, after he lost so many of his men when they were swallowed up by the Reed Sea.

Also it could have been originally called the Reed Sea, because of the Reeds that grew there, until Moses turned the waters into blood. At that time the reeds may have all died. Pharaoh and/or Moses then renamed it the Red Sea because of what had happened to it. All the fish and plant life had died as a result of the waters turning to blood.

[Seyorni]

I was taught that the King James translators were unfamiliar with the word "suph" , though it clearly modified "sea/body of water" (Yam). The only sea in the area was the Red Sea, so that's what they wrote.
Many people say that the "reed/seaweed" adjective referred to the papyrus swamp at the mouth of the Nile, and point out that it would have been sheer idiocy for a group to take off West across a barren desert, with escape blocked by a 150 Km wide sea. Even if Moses' band believed they could cross the Red Sea they would have found themselves in the even larger, and more barren, Sahara.

The only reasonable escape from Egypt would have been to slog across the papyrus swamp at low tide and on to the developed towns of the Eastern Mediterranean.

[jewscout]

i've seen it both ways...my siddur (prayer book)uses the Sea of Reeds

[wmam]

Well Thanks all ...........

Now is there anyone that has anything they they would like to share about any mis-translations that they know about?

I have others but would like to see from others what they have.

Seems we pretty much got it down to "Sea of Reeds" on this one.

Isn't there a lake or something there called "Sea of Reeds" or "Lake of Reeds"? I heard that it was some 200 to 300 feet deep and that it was probably where they crossed.

[FFH]

Originally Posted by wmam

Isn't there a lake or something there called "Sea of Reeds" or "Lake of Reeds"? I heard that it was some 200 to 300 feet deep and that it was probably where they crossed.

There is a sand bar, or shallow stretch of land, that stretches across part of the Gulf of Aqaba, from one end to the other. They have found objects, similar to the size and shapes of spokes and axles of chariot wheels encased in coral along this shallow sand bar or stretch of land. This stretch of land that rises up under the Gulf of Aqaba could have been shallow enough at one point in time that reeds may have grown all the way across, pointing to Moses where to stop and ask God for a miracle. There was a possibility to cross there if the winds were strong enough. Moses may have asked God to part the sea at this point with a strong wind. An extemely strong wind, caused by God. This could have caused the sea to part at this point. Or as the Bible says it was parted by God to the point where there was a wall of water on each side of this dry land. If it was made of sand it could have been crossed while still wet or the remaining water would quickly subside into the earth, because of the sand. The water could have been moved enough to cross this shallow stretch of land or sand bar. It was a miraculous wind or parting by God that cleared the water enough for them to cross on this shallow streatch of land or sand bar where the reeds could be seen growing. The reeds and some of the sand bar could have been washed away to a deeper level at this point when the sea came together again. The sand bar or stretch of land is still there with the chariot wheels encased in coral. Nothing has been moved or touched. After Moses and the children of Isreal crossed this shallow sand bar, the winds could have died or God ceased parting the sea and as the armies of Pharaoh crossed it they would have been submersed with their chariots and drowned. The sea would have settled back over this shallow sand bar and killed or drowned all in its path. This can be proven by looking at the Red sea floor for this stretch of shallow land where the coral encased chariout axles and spokes are still located. They have not been moved. I am sorry I don't have a link to this right now. It was a video documentary that has this information on it.

God probably used this point to cross the Sea of Aqaba, which extends from the Red Sea, because otherwise the children of Isreal would have had to make a steep descent into the sea floor. Something that would have not been possible.

[Seyorni]

Sorry if I sound ignorant, FFH, but where is this "Red Sea peninsula?" The only projection I know of into the Red Sea is the Sinai peninsula. And where, exactly, is this sand bar?

The Red sea is something like 150 Km wide. Crossing it would be no day trip. We're talking at least a week, probably more considering all the baggage described in Exodus.

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by FFH

There is a sand bar, or shallow stretch of land, that stretches across part of the Red Sea peninsula, from one end to the other. They have found objects, similar to the size and shapes of spokes and axles of chariot wheels encased in coral along this shallow sand bar or stretch of land. ...

Who is "they"?

Ron Wyatt is such a distasteful fraud that only the most ignorant take comfort in his 'discoveries'. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[FFH]

Originally Posted by Jayhawker Soule

Who is "they"?

Would it matter if I showed you the photographs of these coral encased chariot spokes and axles on top of this sand bar that stretches across the Red Sea peninsula? Would it even be a valid photograph to you, since everything is a fraud to you?