Did Christ appear to other nations? (Jesus, Moses, Earth, Messiah)

[mormonman]

John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd>

Who are these other sheep? I think most of Christianity believes He is talking about the gentiles. But, is it really the gentiles He is talking about? In this scripture Christ says He'll personally go to these other sheep, to bring them into His fold. Christ never ministered to the gentiles personally. Christ only ministered to the Jews personally. In the Book of Mormon, it starts off in Jerusalem, where one of Jeremiah's contemporaries, Lehi, was preaching against the wicked Jews. Lehi and his family is comanded to leave because their lives are in danger. They leave and ultimately end up in the Americas. There, they are still practicing Jews. They live the Law of Moses and await the coming of Christ. After Christ was resurrected He ministered to them and established the Church there. He chose apostles and even gave some of the same sermons. Look at how many times the Jews were scattered. Not all of the Jews were in Jerusalem. Why is it so hard for other Christian denominations to accept that Chirst went to more than one nation of Jews to establish the Gospel?

[energize]

The Jewish apostles of course went into Rome and other countries to gather out Jews for the purpose of returning(converting them back) to their Judaism instead of them living in the manner of Gentiles. Peter even returned to Jerusalem and his Judaism after Paul had exposed his hypocrisy.

The "others" Jesus spoke of in his last prayers was speaking of those people his disciples would bring with them into Judaism, not into Gentilism. It was not Jesus intention to bring any uncircumcised and lawless Gentiles into "the kingdom of God", which was at Jerusalem, the city whereof God chose to place his name.

[Popeyesays]

Originally Posted by mormonman

Who are these other sheep? I think most of Christianity believes He is talking about the gentiles. But, is it really the gentiles He is talking about? In this scripture Christ says He'll personally go to these other sheep, to bring them into His fold. Christ never ministered to the gentiles personally. Christ only ministered to the Jews personally. In the Book of Mormon, it starts off in Jerusalem, where one of Jeremiah's contemporaries, Lehi, was preaching against the wicked Jews. Lehi and his family is comanded to leave because their lives are in danger. They leave and ultimately end up in the Americas. There, they are still practicing Jews. They live the Law of Moses and await the coming of Christ. After Christ was resurrected He ministered to them and established the Church there. He chose apostles and even gave some of the same sermons. Look at how many times the Jews were scattered. Not all of the Jews were in Jerusalem. Why is it so hard for other Christian denominations to accept that Chirst went to more than one nation of Jews to establish the Gospel?

I believe that Jesus came to this earth ONCE. Christ (the Annointed, the Chosen, the Messiah, the Spirit of God), however, has come many times to as many peoples as needed to hear Him. I do not think, however, that He came to all those peoples in the three day period between His death on the cross and His resurrection.

Moses was "the Christ" to the people to whom He came. Muhammed was the "Christ" to the people to whom He came, etc. Zoroaster, Buddha, the Bab, Baha`u'llah, Noah, Abraham, Krsna, all came as the Divine Manifestation of God, but the man, Jesus was here just once.

Regards,
Scott

[TheGreaterGame]

Originally Posted by mormonman

Who are these other sheep? I think most of Christianity believes He is talking about the gentiles. But, is it really the gentiles He is talking about? In this scripture Christ says He'll personally go to these other sheep, to bring them into His fold. Christ never ministered to the gentiles personally. Christ only ministered to the Jews personally. In the Book of Mormon, it starts off in Jerusalem, where one of Jeremiah's contemporaries, Lehi, was preaching against the wicked Jews. Lehi and his family is comanded to leave because their lives are in danger. They leave and ultimately end up in the Americas. There, they are still practicing Jews. They live the Law of Moses and await the coming of Christ. After Christ was resurrected He ministered to them and established the Church there. He chose apostles and even gave some of the same sermons. Look at how many times the Jews were scattered. Not all of the Jews were in Jerusalem. Why is it so hard for other Christian denominations to accept that Chirst went to more than one nation of Jews to establish the Gospel?

Its not hard to belive . . . but it just never happened . . . no matter how many fictional stories are written.

[Ori]

Probably so, but they were on the toilet or asleep at the time.

[Terrywoodenpic]

Some certainly in the middle ages,
believed Jesus came to England for a time after he rose again.

Though I don't know of any group who believes this today.

Terry_________________
Blessed are the gentle, they shall inherit the land

[jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Terrywoodenpic

Some certainly in the middle ages,
believed Jesus came to England for a time after he rose again.

Though I don't know of any group who believes this today.

Terry_________________
Blessed are the gentle, they shall inherit the land

My wife has told me that too. Something about sticking his staff in the ground and it grew into a tree.

[mormonman]

Originally Posted by energize

The Jewish apostles of course went into Rome and other countries to gather out Jews for the purpose of returning(converting them back) to their Judaism instead of them living in the manner of Gentiles. Peter even returned to Jerusalem and his Judaism after Paul had exposed his hypocrisy.

The "others" Jesus spoke of in his last prayers was speaking of those people his disciples would bring with them into Judaism, not into Gentilism. It was not Jesus intention to bring any uncircumcised and lawless Gentiles into "the kingdom of God", which was at Jerusalem, the city whereof God chose to place his name.

First the Apostles didn't convert people to Judaism, they converted people to Christianity. Second, again, Christ didn't go to the Gentiles, He went to the Jews. In John 10:16 He said that He had other sheep that were not in the fold (not in Jerusalem) and the HE must bring them into the fold. Many times Christ was called the "Good Shepherd". Why would a good shepherd send others to bring back the lost sheep? HE WOULDN'T.

[mormonman]

Originally Posted by Popeyesays

I believe that Jesus came to this earth ONCE. Christ (the Annointed, the Chosen, the Messiah, the Spirit of God), however, has come many times to as many peoples as needed to hear Him. I do not think, however, that He came to all those peoples in the three day period between His death on the cross and His resurrection.

Moses was "the Christ" to the people to whom He came. Muhammed was the "Christ" to the people to whom He came, etc. Zoroaster, Buddha, the Bab, Baha`u'llah, Noah, Abraham, Krsna, all came as the Divine Manifestation of God, but the man, Jesus was here just once.

He didn't come to all of those people in a 3 day period. After he was resurrected He went to the Apostles, then He went to His "other sheep". He came once? Christ has been on the Earth many more times than one. For example he came to Saul on the way to Damascus and to John on the Island of Patmos.

[Solon]

Originally Posted by TheGreaterGame

Its not hard to belive . . . but it just never happened . . . no matter how many fictional stories are written.

I believe we have already proved that beyond any reasonable doubt. Not that that has made us many friends !

Cheers

S