Unfulfilled Prophecies in the Bible (Jesus, ritual, Jehovah, genesis)

[Yasin]

Yasin

[Yasin]

I found that through reading the Bible, there were prophecies that that were not being fulfilled, i will give a example in order to start off,

A Empty Threat,

But of the tree of the Knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Genesis 2:17

Contradicted by:

And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. Genesis 5:5

Interesting, in the Bible "in the day" does not mean "that very day"

And further, according to the Bible the Satan is more accurate then God himself:

And the serpent (Satan) said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die.
Genesis 3:4

Any comments?
Respectively, Yasin

[Solon]

Well, some have postulated the some prophcies did occur, but this is a matter of interpretation, I like to call it prophecy after the event, happens all the time. Of some difficulty to Christians is Jesus' promise to return within a generation, clearly, he did not. And so, theologians have tried to explain this away by playing around with what time means to God. Already 2000 years have floated by, and no second coming, which is not much of a suprise to me.

S

[Suzy]

I do not see Gods warning to Adam as an empty threat.

It tells us in 2 Peter 3. 8, "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."(KJV)

"However, let this one fact not be escaping your notice,beloved ones,that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day."(NWT)

So when Adam died at 930 years, then it was within Gods day of one thousand years.

[Tek]

That is true my friend for satan lied to them but if you think about we are always dieng to a ripe old age or how ever because we sure are not geting younger are we?

[mormonman]

There is more than one type of death. There is temperal death(death of the physical body) and spiritual death. Adam was in the presence of God the Father in the Garden of Eden. They walked and talked together. When Adam and Eve partook of the fruit they died spiritualy, not temperally, because they were cast from the presence of God. So, that prophecy is perfectly accurate.

[Of a Happy Ending]

Originally Posted by Yasin

I found that through reading the Bible, there were prophecies that that were not being fulfilled, i will give a example in order to start off,

A Empty Threat,

But of the tree of the Knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Genesis 2:17

Contradicted by:

And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. Genesis 5:5

Interesting, in the Bible "in the day" does not mean "that very day"

And further, according to the Bible the Satan is more accurate then God himself:

And the serpent (Satan) said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die.
Genesis 3:4

Any comments?
Respectively, Yasin

Here's the problem. You're reading literally what was figurative.

1. The claim is figurative in the sense of time. Adam and Eve were eternal creatures until eating of the forbidden fruit. At that time they became subject to death. The verse that you claim refutes the "threat" actually fulfills it. The latter part of the verse states, "then he died." Adam would not have died at all had he not taken of the fruit.

2. After partaking of the fruit, the fellowship that Adam and Eve had with God was broken, amounting to spiritual death. Romans tells us that "the wages of sin is death." If taken literally, we should all die at the first sign of sin. However, the verse refers to spiritual death. We are all separated from God, and are, therefore, spiritually dead. That life is only restored through the absolution of our sin.

3. Satan was not more accurate than God, only more scheming. He knew that Adam and Eve would not immediately physically die, but he certainly knew that breaking God's command would result in a broken fellowship, and once one has been in the immediate presence of God, to suddenly be faced with never again having that degree of fellowship must be a type of death.

There ya' go.

Brandon

[MdmSzdWhtGuy]

Oh that's handy. Where good sense makes us realize that parts of the Bible are absurd, such as the dying from eating of the fruit, then that part is figurative. Funny how literal the bible used to be, but how as science, logic and reasoning are applied, more and more of it becomes figurative.

I don't recall book and verse, but in Genesis in the story of the flood the last verse of that chapter says something to the effect of men only living to be 120 years old after that. The very next chapter makes several references to people who were born after the flood but lived well beyond 120 years of age. And this is on the same page of text.

The bible is so rife with self contradictions that it is baffling that anyone who reads it with a critical, analytical eye could come to the conclusion that it is perfectly and divinely inspired.

And Of A Happy Ending, there is no mention in Genesis of the serpent being Satan, or being possessed by Satan or any mention of Satan at all. It merely says that the serpent, being more clever than the other animals . . . .

B.

B.

[MidnightBlue]

Originally Posted by Suzy

I do not see Gods warning to Adam as an empty threat.

It tells us in 2 Peter 3. 8, "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."(KJV)

"However, let this one fact not be escaping your notice,beloved ones,that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day."(NWT)

So when Adam died at 930 years, then it was within Gods day of one thousand years.

Likewise, when the Lord told the Hebrews to rest on the seventh day, he meant they should take every seventh millenium off. Also, Jonah was actually three thousand years in the belly of the great fish, and Jesus will rise from the dead during the third millenium after his death. Once you understand how God measures time, it really puts a new light on the Bible.

[Victor]

Originally Posted by MdmSzdWhtGuy

Funny how literal the bible used to be, but how as science, logic and reasoning are applied, more and more of it becomes figurative.

MdmSzdWhtGuy, why do you keep saying this? Early Christendom never held to ONE style of interpretation. Let me repeat it again....NEVER did it hold to one style interpretation. If you are truly interested in finding this out for yourself you can pull up early Christian classics and read for yourself. So this idea of stauch science, logic, and reasoning debunking religion because of it's literalistic style is inaccurate.

~Victor