Did Jesus (pbuh) really die? (reject, crucified, virgin, prophet)

[YmirGF]

Originally Posted by Yasin

Well removing ignorance (no offense) is the best cure in order to Understand one another.........Dont you think?
Respectively, Yasin

Yes, Yasin, I most certainly agree. Ignorance is such a terrible plague on mankind, don't you think? It is such a pity that the ignorant do not know who they are. Like, I know, you know, so don't get me wrong. What I can't help but wonder, Yasin, is how will they ever awaken in time?

[anders]

Originally Posted by BM5

I don't know how you can equate holiness (i.e. Holy Quran) with 72 virgins as reward if you win out.
The whole thing is based on a pursuit of lust.

It deserves to be mentioned that the "72 virgins" thing doesn't come from the Qur'an . Paradise is great (at least for men), of course, but which religion's paradise is dull?

[MidnightBlue]

Yasin, do you believe that Jesus did not die? Ever? I've talked to some Muslims who do. It seems to me like an odd belief, though not any more odd than the belief that Enoch and Elijah didn't die.

[Yasin]

Originally Posted by MidnightBlue

Yasin, do you believe that Jesus did not die? Ever? I've talked to some Muslims who do. It seems to me like an odd belief, though not any more odd than the belief that Enoch and Elijah didn't die.

Hi MidnightBlue,

Yes according to my faith, i must believe he is still alive, and i do.
Respectively, Yasin

[BM5]

removing ignorance is only usefull to understanding the truth

Did He really die ?
The real question is " Can you kill Divinity " ?
Obviously not, but i already know that you deny His Divine Nature and nothing anyone can say would make a difference to your position, correct ?

[blueman]

Jesus died and was resurrected according to 1st century writers and historians. The Quran evolved in the 7th century and begs to differ from that school of thought. Why?

[sandy whitelinger]

He died if you believe the Bible. On the other hand if you just want to make it up as you go along......

[blueman]

Originally Posted by sandy whitelinger

He died if you believe the Bible. On the other hand if you just want to make it up as you go along......

And how would I be making it up as I go along when it is already a historical record within 1st century antiquity? Even historians (roman historian Ticitus) outside of the bilbical record have acknowledged as much.

[Yasin]

Originally Posted by BM5

removing ignorance is only usefull to understanding the truth

Did He really die ?
The real question is " Can you kill Divinity " ?
Obviously not, but i already know that you deny His Divine Nature and nothing anyone can say would make a difference to your position, correct ?

Hi BM5,

I reject Jesus (pbuh) being Divine on the basis of the Quran, which is natural , but that means nothing to you, which is natural again, but i have reasons to believe that i can produce proves on such a notion even outside of Islam.
Respectively, Yasin

[jorylore]

Yes, Jesus did die according to the Bible. He had to die. It was on the basis of his sacraficial death that humans have the basis for reconsiliation to God and the hope to inherit what original sin took away: everlasting life and a relationship with God. He wasn't dead long. Three days only. He was resurrected and is alive now. Isn't that what your holy book means when it says that "Allah raised him up unto himself"? He could not have raised flesh and blood to him but a spirit, right? That is why he is alive and can offer judgment.