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Old 12-03-2005, 08:02 PM
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No its not. I like this article. I also went to the library and read parts of some of the gospels that were rejected by the early Christian Church. Very interesting especailly the Gospel of Mary.
the gospel of Mary is my absolute favorite! *smiles*
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:04 PM
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the gospel of Mary is my absolute favorite! *smiles*
Can you recommend some books on Gnostic's? Like somethiong that is not in the Martian Language.
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Whaddaya mean who wrote the new testament? I DID! I thought everyone knew that Joeboonda wrote all that, man, I thot this was religious forums and you all just KNEW I wrote that! It was some of my better work, lol! Okay, Okay, just kidding. I dunno, but man, I believe them and am glad for them. There are very detailed studies of them, how they were kept for us, I for one find them completely reliable and trustworthy, all my questions were answered long ago on their validity, but thats jus' me. I trust them and believe they are God's very word to us, and the good news that He loves us and died and rose again for us so we can be with him forever. Its great news! I am soooooooooo glad for my Bible, so glad for the free gift! Praise God!

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Old 12-03-2005, 08:28 PM
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Whaddaya mean who wrote the new testament? I DID! I thought everyone knew that Joeboonda wrote all that, man, I thot this was religious forums and you all just KNEW I wrote that! It was some of my better work, lol! Okay, Okay, just kidding. I dunno, but man, I believe them and am glad for them. There are very detailed studies of them, how they were kept for us, I for one find them completely reliable and trustworthy, all my questions were answered long ago on their validity, but thats jus' me. I trust them and believe they are God's very word to us, and the good news that He loves us and died and rose again for us so we can be with him forever. Its great news! I am soooooooooo glad for my Bible, so glad for the free gift! Praise God!

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Well as long as we are coming clean I need to confess that I am the Serpent that spoke to Eve. OH MAN! On a 1-10 scale ....10 being the hottest. She was a 100. Woweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Well as long as we are coming clean I need to confess that I am the Serpent that spoke to Eve. OH MAN! On a 1-10 scale ....10 being the hottest. She was a 100. Woweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
One more comment about Eve. She was a dumb blond.
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well, to be honest, there's nothing in gnostics that isnt a little "odd" to most people's tastes. But Paul was said to be a gnostic writer, so that's more mainstream. If i were you, i'd read up on the whole Nag Hammadi Library and go from there...
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Many believe they are forgeries and not writtten by the apostles but other men. Why were they written decades after the death of Jesus.
This is a very good point. Scriptures are given by inspiration from God through Jesus Christ through the Holy Ghost to men on earth. Chosen men of God. This would explain why the Four Gospels were written after the fact, not while it happened.

It would be safe to say that Jesus Christ wrote the Old and the New Testament.

2 Timothy 3: 16

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness."
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Old 12-03-2005, 10:18 PM
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Well as long as we are coming clean I need to confess that I am the Serpent that spoke to Eve. OH MAN! On a 1-10 scale ....10 being the hottest. She was a 100. Woweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
How come you get all the fun.
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Old 12-03-2005, 10:19 PM
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One more comment about Eve. She was a dumb blond.
I kinda pictured her as a Latino.
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Many believe they are forgeries and not writtten by the apostles but other men. Why were they written decades after the death of Jesus.
This question has been raised many times, (How and why oral tradition changed into written documentation, similar reason for the OT to be documented around 700 bc, and NT documented around 400 ad) and I think Richard Carrier has written a very comprehensive review/reply:
http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...Tcanon.html#IV

V. The Gnostics Make the First Move

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Around 135 AD the Gnostic Basilides composed a mighty treatise called the Exigetica which, judging from quotes by critics, contained lengthy exegesis on Gospel stories like the Sermon on the Mount and the Rich Man and Lazarus (M 78-9). We do not know if he was drawing on any actual Gospels, or oral tradition. Nevertheless, the attack was underway: whoever disagreed with him had to respond in kind, with their own texts, and somehow win the resulting propaganda war. For this purpose the New Testament was all but born. And in addition to this was the political need for a scapegoat: pressure against Christians by the Roman authorities prompted many to criticise other Christian sects with the general theme "they are the bad Christians, but we are the good ones, so you should punish them instead." Thus, pro-Roman elements, and the absence of anti-Roman features, were a precondition for the canonic texts of any church with a chance of success, and this also affected the formation of the surviving canon--and, incidentally, given the tense relations between Rome and the Jews, antisemitic features would also win Roman favor and release the Christians from Roman hostility toward Jews, although one could not take this pandering too far in a church largely comprised of Jews or their descendants.
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