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Old 11-17-2005, 11:32 AM
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If god gave us free will. Then he destroyed an entire city including infants and women. Those infants never had a chance to make a decision.

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Old 11-17-2005, 11:38 AM
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If god gave us free will. Then he destroyed an entire city including infants and women. Those infants never had a chance to make a decision.
The same can be said of a man who got hit by a car and never saw it coming. He never got a choice to move out of the way. So what's your point?

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Old 11-17-2005, 12:29 PM
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Point is it seems that is a pretty darned arbitrary capricious and cruel god there Victor. The car incident was an accident, while razing the city, infants and all, was done on purpose by God.

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Old 11-17-2005, 01:40 PM
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Just wondering why he destroyed the infants without giving them a fair chance, regardless of knowing their destiny
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Just wondering why he destroyed the infants without giving them a fair chance, regardless of knowing their destiny
A fair chance at what exactly?
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Old 11-17-2005, 01:46 PM
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Point is it seems that is a pretty darned arbitrary capricious and cruel god there Victor. The car incident was an accident, while razing the city, infants and all, was done on purpose by God.

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I suppose it would be of no difference to you if He let it happen?

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Old 11-17-2005, 01:46 PM
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A fair chance at what exactly?
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Old 11-17-2005, 01:50 PM
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It is a gnostic belief that the God mentioned in the OT (the one known for floods, fire, and intollerance) was not the same one preached about by Jesus (one known for love, peace, and forgivness). It is our belief that Jesus was sent here to help guide us to freedom from the imprisonment of the lower god, Yaldabaoth. Why were Adam and Eve forbidden to eat from the Tree of Knowledge? To keep them stupid.
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Where does it say that everyone should get a fair chance at living?
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he gave us free will and yet he killed innocent infants because they were going excersise their free will later on in life?
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