Has the Paradigm Fallen? (abortion, sex)

[Engyo]

Originally Posted by michel

Have you any example of poor work ethic ?

Michel -

I think this is an inelegant reference to the fact that Europeans often enjoy a shorter workweek and longer vacations than workers in the US or the Far East do; it is not uncommon for workers in the US to work well over 40 hours/week (for overtime pay, of course) and not to take all of the vacation time their job affords.

[MdmSzdWhtGuy]

Originally Posted by Engyo

Michel -

I think this is an inelegant reference to the fact that Europeans often enjoy a shorter workweek and longer vacations than workers in the US or the Far East do; it is not uncommon for workers in the US to work well over 40 hours/week (for overtime pay, of course) and not to take all of the vacation time their job affords.

Precisely. I am sure studies exist and can be found, but the general ghist of it is that a very high percentage of American and Far Eastern workers work in excess of 40 hours per week, and often do not take even the meager 2 weeks of vacation allotted to them by their employers, while it is pretty common in France, Spain, Germany etc. . . to work fewer hours per week, with more recognized holidays, and to be afforded a lot more vacation time than American or Far Eastern workers.

I might take umbrage with it being "inelegant" but other than that, you were directly on point to what I was referring to.

B.

[MdmSzdWhtGuy]

http://www.vinod.com/blog/News/USvs....Vacations.html

Just to get you started. There are lots more, but I have yet to figure out how to cut and paste more than one web page at a time.

B.

[Sunstone]

Originally Posted by MdmSzdWhtGuy

Precisely. I am sure studies exist and can be found, but the general ghist of it is that a very high percentage of American and Far Eastern workers work in excess of 40 hours per week, and often do not take even the meager 2 weeks of vacation allotted to them by their employers, while it is pretty common in France, Spain, Germany etc. . . to work fewer hours per week, with more recognized holidays, and to be afforded a lot more vacation time than American or Far Eastern workers.

I might take umbrage with it being "inelegant" but other than that, you were directly on point to what I was referring to.

B.

I suppose whether you think it is a good or bad thing to work like an American largely depends on what you think is the point and purpose of your life.

[Darkdale]

Originally Posted by Engyo

Michel -

I think this is an inelegant reference to the fact that Europeans often enjoy a shorter workweek and longer vacations than workers in the US or the Far East do; it is not uncommon for workers in the US to work well over 40 hours/week (for overtime pay, of course) and not to take all of the vacation time their job affords.

My g/f works 60 hours a week and gets no overtime. Salary. It's a *****.

[Engyo]

Originally Posted by Darkdale

My g/f works 60 hours a week and gets no overtime. Salary. It's a *****.

I am currently working 55/wk, but at least I get paid for every hour I work. No 1 1/2 time, but you can't always have everything......

[jonny]

Originally Posted by Engyo

Michel -

I think this is an inelegant reference to the fact that Europeans often enjoy a shorter workweek and longer vacations than workers in the US or the Far East do; it is not uncommon for workers in the US to work well over 40 hours/week (for overtime pay, of course) and not to take all of the vacation time their job affords.

Other than weekends and holidays I've only taken one day off work since April. I feel bad asking for time off, even though I get paid time off.

[MdmSzdWhtGuy]

I am on salary myself. I don't even bother keeping up with the hours I work, would just make me mad I think. Funny thing is, around here, the ones who work hourly would love to work more, but the company won't let them, due to overtime, and they pile on the ones who are salaried, since there is no more overhead for the company.

B.

[Bennettresearch]

Originally Posted by Engyo

Michel -

I think this is an inelegant reference to the fact that Europeans often enjoy a shorter workweek and longer vacations than workers in the US or the Far East do; it is not uncommon for workers in the US to work well over 40 hours/week (for overtime pay, of course) and not to take all of the vacation time their job affords.

Hey Engyo,

I guess it is only inelegant if it is pro american and not pro european. We can find lots of unfair employment issues in the US, I have had a few of my own. The point here is a macro comparison. All of this talk about empire etc when it comes to the US from countries that actually did have them. We are in the spotlight because we are the richest country. How do you suppose that happened? Right now I am hearing whining from europe that the US owns the internet. Huh? Gee, do you think that if europe had developed it that they wouldn't want to own it? I think this is at issue. Europe hasn't really proven a superior social system through different kinds of socialism or dictatorships etc. And yet, we are still criticized for being a more successful country.


Craig

[Bennettresearch]

Originally Posted by Darkdale

My g/f works 60 hours a week and gets no overtime. Salary. It's a *****.

Hey Dark,

Man, I have worked some long hours myself. Right now is the first time in the last thirty years that I have had two days off a week. I would agree that the coporate paradigm has aggrivated us all at some time. In a way, it has created the very opposite of what it wants from workers. At my job, I have to carry an extra burden because a lot of workers are only there for the paycheck. They play the sick time game and because my company is not strict about showing up on time they are perpetually late or finding reasons why they have to leave to take care of something. There is no responsibility that this is a job. I am sure that they would like a socialistic system.