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Old 11-12-2005, 03:26 PM
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Rex Mundi, that's not one i come across often. I prefer Yaldaboath, sounds cooler, or Samael - for he is blind.
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This is an example of misinterprating the Bible once again. When we look back at ancient Myths of Greece and Rome, we relize that many of the stories where just the way a primitve people explained natural phenomenon. It is my belief that many of the Bibles stories are the same thing. Is it not possible that the author of the passage that called homosexuality a "cuse from God" called it that because he had no other explanation? It is easy to see how one might think that thousands of years ago, since homosexuality doesn't result in an offspring. An intreasting fact to be considered is that for some beliefs, homosexuality is considered completely normal. In some Gnostic faiths the Creator, called Rex Mundi ( God of the Old Teastament, tranlates to king of the world) is evil in nature, and tries to keep our "divine spark" trapped inside his creation (the planet) through our reproduction. I can go into more detail if someone would like.
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Since I see this is your first post on this forum, I thought it would be a good time to welcome you here.

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From this it becomes clear that homosexuality is not something biological or natural as some think but it is a curse from God that comes upon Godless people and their descendants .At the core homosexuality is of spiritual in nature.
In the most innofensive way I can say it, that is bigoted balderdash ;
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Ah, So God makes people Homosexual so that he can punish them ?.........yes, I see now.



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I agree that homosexuality is not condoned in the New Testament. Although, I do understand its biological in many cases. It is also by decision in others
It is also by decision in others......really ? can you supply anything to back up your opinion.
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There are many noteable exampled of animals choosing only partners of the same sex.
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Old 11-12-2005, 03:52 PM
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Please do.
Wikipedia offers some great reading on the topic, so to save my poor fingers please check out this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnostic..._and_Cosmology

According to the Gnostic belief, the Creator intended to keep humanity unware in order to keep them trapped on his creation. I always thought it was odd when I was a child that Adam and Eve were evicted from Eden for eating the fruit of KNOWLEDGE (Gnosis in greek).

The Cathars, a sect of Gnosics that prospered around the turn of the 1st Millenium AD, practiced both homosexuality and birth control, as they felt that sex was a way to directly commune with the true Gods of peace and love. It was their belief that the creator chose sexual reproduction for just that reason, so that communion with those powers would lead to further imprisonment on this world.

Let me also add that Gnostis feel that Jesus is not the son of Rex Mundi, but as an Avatar of the Pleroma, a guide sent here to help escape the Demiurge's prison.
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Wikipedia offers some great reading on the topic, so to save my poor fingers please check out this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnostic..._and_Cosmology

According to the Gnostic belief, the Creator intended to keep humanity unware in order to keep them trapped on his creation. I always thought it was odd when I was a child that Adam and Eve were evicted from Eden for eating the fruit of KNOWLEDGE (Gnosis in greek).

The Cathars, a sect of Gnosics that prospered around the turn of the 1st Millenium AD, practiced both homosexuality and birth control, as they felt that sex was a way to directly commune with the true Gods of peace and love. It was their belief that the creator chose sexual reproduction for just that reason, so that communion with those powers would lead to further imprisonment on this world.

Let me also add that Gnostis feel that Jesus is not the son of Rex Mundi, but as an Avatar of the Pleroma, a guide sent here to help escape the Demiurge's prison.
Wow ! You'll have to forgive my lack of knowledge about gnosticism; one aspect caught my eye, though - the mention of arcana, which also has a place in the Kabbalah, in the study of the Tarot;
Occult interpretations of the Tarot cards divide the deck into two parts:
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Let me also add that Gnostis feel that Jesus is not the son of Rex Mundi, but as an Avatar of the Pleroma, a guide sent here to help escape the Demiurge's prison.
Well, the Christian Gnostics anyway, the Valentinians and Cathars etc.

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Wow ! You'll have to forgive my lack of knowledge about gnosticism; one aspect caught my eye...
Mich! I am shocked, after all my months of spouting Gnostic myth i thought you would have absorbed it like a sponge.
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Another note on the Cathars, they were wiped out by the Catholic church for their "heretical" beliefs in the Albigensian Crusade, the only crusade that involved Europeans killing fellow Europeans.
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Well, the Christian Gnostics anyway, the Valentinians and Cathars etc.

Mich! I am shocked, after all my months of spouting Gnostic myth i thought you would have absorbed it like a sponge.
I'm very ssssorry, I'll pppay better attention in future........honest........
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