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Old 10-07-2005, 05:36 PM
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Old 10-07-2005, 06:07 PM
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the book of james

written by - james

........ which james? does it specify?
James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

Defender's notes.........
James was prominent in the early Jerusalem church; one of the "pillars" along with Peter and John (Galatians 2:9). He was one whom the Lord Jesus went to see after His resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:7).

James is called "the Lord's brother" (Galatians 1:19) and is apparently the one mentioned in Mark 6:3 and Matthew 13:55 as the first of four "brethren" of Jesus who were sons of Mary. He became the presiding elder in the church.

James was writing to his Jewish brethren who were "scattered abroad" in the dispersion. They may well have included many of those he had met on the day of Pentecost when the Holy Spirit came, and the 120 disciples (Acts)

An incidental confirmation that the epistle of James was written by the same James who presided at the Jerusalem council is the fact that both begin with the word "greetings" (Acts 15:23), a term not used by writers of the other New Testament epistles.
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The Bible dictionary in my quad says "The writer is generally thought of as the Lord's brother, the son of Mary..." I always thought it was James the Apostles brother of John. Huh.
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Old 10-07-2005, 06:11 PM
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The Bible dictionary in my quad says "The writer is generally thought of as the Lord's brother, the son of Mary..." I always thought it was James the Apostles brother of John. Huh.
Yes.......... "James is called "the Lord's brother" (Galatians 1:19)"
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This is the same James who fell out with Paul over the direction of the Jesus cult, Paul wanted to take the message to non-Jews, as he was astute enough to know that the Jews wern't going to buy into Jesus. James wanted non of that, he wanted to retain it's Jewishness.

Paul left Jerusalem, James was trapped there when the City was filled with bandits, warring against one another. The Romans under Titus arrived, James was trapped, and perished in the general slaughter and carnage when the City fell. The rest is history as they say.

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Yes.......... "James is called "the Lord's brother" (Galatians 1:19)"
Yes, but an actual half brother. Jesus called a lot of people his brother. This one was the son of his mother, too.
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Yes, but an actual half brother. Jesus called a lot of people his brother. This one was the son of his mother, too.
Not according to Holy Tradition. None of the churches with an unbroken succession from the Apostles (Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox or Roman Catholic) would accept this. There are good reasons from Scripture to believe that this Tradition is correct also. If James had been the son of Mary, for instance, it would be unthinkable that Christ would have entrusted His mother to somebody else. There are actually two views on who James might have been. One is that he was an older relative of Christ, Joseph's son from a previous marriage and the other is that he was a cousin, the word brother often being used to describe more distant male relatives at the time the Gospels were written.

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An incidental confirmation that the epistle of James was written by the same James who presided at the Jerusalem council is ...
... in fact, so incidental as to be worthless. James is widely considered pseudepigraphic.
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Yes, but an actual half brother. Jesus called a lot of people his brother. This one was the son of his mother, too.

Hi Aqualung, yes I believe that James is the half brother of Jesus, Mary's son..
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