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Old 11-01-2005, 03:07 PM
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Jesus tells his disciples many times to pray in "my name" to gather together in his name.
Can you support your claim by any verse please?

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He gives them the power to heal the sick and cast out demons in his name.
As far as i know that God gave this power in God's name for Jesus to do these things but not that Jesus gave it to others.
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Old 11-01-2005, 03:29 PM
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I get the feeling that threads such as these are like prosyltyzing in reverse? IOW, if you prove the other religion false, then people will flock to your religion. I find it MORE than disengenuous and highly insulting and if it doesn't flagrantly violate the TOS, it certainly flirts with doing so. I expect we will see a response with a "just" in it, trying to justify their actions. Go figure!
Do you mean that once someone knews that his/her understanding for the scripture is not accurate so that will attract him/her to the other religion?

I have no idea what is the purpose of these forums if it wasn't to search for the truth, is it just to be hypocrit between each other complimenting around without getting any benefit? or just to get money from the advirtisments within the website?

For me, i just came to search for the truth within it was by my side, your side or anyone else whatever s/he is based on scriptures, logic and analyzing.
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Old 11-11-2005, 04:50 PM
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Christ is the Son of God. A son is not the Father. Goes without saying really but I said it anywayz. ;-)

We can all become sons of Ged (Rev 21,7) "Those who overcome...". We are created in the Image of God, it means we are able to manifest His qualities if we purify ourselves enough (overcome).

btw Christ has returned. See his teachings: www.maitreya.org
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Old 11-11-2005, 04:53 PM
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The Son is not the Father. Being One with Father? Well, if you tell a hindu that you are one with God, they will says, "so what? so are we".

God is everything. However not everything is in the same state of consciousness as God is in (Pure Consciousness).

btw Christ has returned. See His teachings: www.maitreya.org
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He is correct.

That is correct.

Yup.

Philippians 2:6 = WHO, BEING IN THE FORM OF GOD, THOUGHT IT NOT ROBBERY TO BE EQUAL WITH GOD:

John 10:18 = I HAVE POWER TO LAY IT DOWN, AND I HAVE POWER TO TAKE IT AGAIN.

He didn't -- Jesus is a monotheist.

Good question.

Interpret this:

1 Timothy 3:16 = AND WITHOUT CONTROVERSY GREAT IS THE MYSTERY OF GODLINESS: GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH, JUSTIFIED IN THE SPIRIT, SEEN OF ANGELS, PREACHED UNTO THE GENTILES, BELIEVED ON IN THE WORLD, RECEIVED UP INTO GLORY.

How clear is that?
In answering his quesions i would like you to quote Jesus's (pbuh) words from his mouth, not Paul or any of the other apostles............But Jesus (pbuh) only.......And give references.......Respectively, Yasin
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Yasin,

Only Jesus words? Why, now you question the entire Bible. Paul was not inspired by God? Then what about Moses, Solomon, ect... So you admit to seeing the truth that yes Jesus is God and is still alive today. But your looking for reason to justify you religion. And I don't blame you, I'm here for the same reason we all our. To know the truth.
You took a quote from AV1611 where he quotes Philippians 2:6. Where Christ is said to give up his divine position in order to take on our nature. The entire peace is amazing.
6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and made in the likeness of men
8And being found in the fashion of a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10That at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of things of heaven, and things in earth;
11And that every tonge should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the father
God came to this earth in the form of a man because how else would he come. If we truly saw God in all his glory we would die. He came to save us from death. It's the best love story ever.
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To answer the original question, I think a trip to a Christian bookstore, or an online search, would yield the reasons we believe Jesus is God. Jesus forgave sins, and only God can do that, it is a difficult idea to grasp, I know, some of us call it the Trinity, or three-in-one. LIke H2O, water, ice, vapor, but all H2O, just in different forms. I am just glad God sent his Son to pay for all our sins, and offerred eternal life with Him as a totally free gift we cannot earn or keep, just accept humbly as sinners. It is absolutely wonderful, and is why I want to love and please God, because he first loved me. Hope that helps!

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Firstly, we don't really and truly know what Jesus was trying to teach here. The Bible was written principally by word of mouth and passing around what Jesus had said in his ministry. Unless we find jesus and ask him what he was teaching, we are merely reading about his ministry and life from the viewpoint of people that might have been a tad misguided or biased about what Jesus claimed to be. Lots of context.
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Firstly, we don't really and truly know what Jesus was trying to teach here. The Bible was written principally by word of mouth and passing around what Jesus had said in his ministry. Unless we find jesus and ask him what he was teaching, we are merely reading about his ministry and life from the viewpoint of people that might have been a tad misguided or biased about what Jesus claimed to be. Lots of context.
Actually the written word is only one way God communicates to his people. He also calls Prophets and speaks directly to them. Through the written word and the mouths of the prophets God's truths may be known.
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Firstly, we don't really and truly know what Jesus was trying to teach here. The Bible was written principally by word of mouth and passing around what Jesus had said in his ministry. Unless we find jesus and ask him what he was teaching, we are merely reading about his ministry and life from the viewpoint of people that might have been a tad misguided or biased about what Jesus claimed to be. Lots of context.
You can ask him, it's called prayer...
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