The case against hell (Jesus, punishment, Earth, tradition, Isaiah)

[Carl Unger]

Please DO NOT reply unless you've read the whole page, thank you.
Here is the link......
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/ifhellisreal.htm

I'm interested in your opinion, but once again I stress, please DO NOT reply unless you've read the WHOLE page.

[Jaymes]

Thanks for the article, Carl! Though I'm no Hebrew or Greek scholar by any means, the article seems convincing--not that I really bought into the notion of hell to begin with. Maybe some of the members more knowledgable on Greek and Hebrew could take a look at this? I'm very interested in knowing the validity of it.

[Carl Unger]

You are only touching the surface.
There are much better articles than this on the same site.
Maybe you could also try http://what-the-hell-is-hell.com
and thanks for replying.

[Terrywoodenpic]

When I was young I thought Hell existed, I had just accepted what I was told.
For the nex twenty years I doubted it's existance.
For the last thirty I have had no doubt that it did not exist.
The belief in Jesus and in the love of God Make the belief in Hell impossible for me.

Terry
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Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.

[michel]

Originally Posted by Terrywoodenpic

When I was young I thought Hell existed, I had just accepted what I was told.
For the nex twenty years I doubted it's existance.
For the last thirty I have had no doubt that it did not exist.
The belief in Jesus and in the love of God Make the belief in Hell impossible for me.

Terry
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Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.

"The belief in Jesus and in the love of God Make the belief in Hell impossible for me."

I actually tried to write that in my own words; they werent half as good as yours, Terry.

[Mister Emu]

I read what I could, utterly false, what we call Hell, is not really hell(the grave), but the everlasting lake of fire, where the worm dies not, and where the beast and the dragon will be burned forever. The Bible also says that all those whose names are not in the book of life will be cast there as well.

[Carl Unger]

but the everlasting lake of fire, where the worm dies not, and where the beast and the dragon will be burned forever. The Bible also says that all those whose names are not in the book of life will be cast there as well.

Unquenchable fire is not eternal fire - it is simply fire that cannot be put out until it has consumed or changed everything it is possible for it to change! It then simply goes out, for there is nothing more to burn. Yet I hear the preachers ranting and raving about poor souls being cast into bell fire where "their worm dies not, and the fire is not quenched" and this, we are told, means eternal, unending torment. How foolish, illogical, and deceptive! Such a view contradicts the plain meaning of the term "unquenchable" and its use in the Word of God.

Are the judgments of God permanent? Isaiah says, "When Your judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness" (Isa. 26:9). And Mat. 12:20 says, "A bruised reed shall He not break, and smoking flax shall He not quench, till He send forth judgment unto victory." Judgment, therefore, is not an eternal condition, but it is given to produce that victory. Judgments of themselves do not save anyone, but they are used by God to bring one to one's self, to effect a change of attitude and will, to consume away the stubbornness and rebellion of men. Punishment by fire is a beneficent one. "Our GOD is a consuming fire" (Heb. 12:29). The basic purpose of this divine fire of God is to cleanse, purify, purge, temper and change. It is to rid of impurities, of filth, of undesirable elements. There is no better way to deal with filth than to deal with it by fire. The punishment by penal fire leads back to the beginning of things. The final work of God in this world will be the destruction of the world (order) by penal fire. That will change all things. That will melt all the elements, so that no man can tell you where his original grab was. It will burn up all the governments, institutions, systems, and fruitage of the carnal mind. It will melt all the customs, cultures, traditions, and practices of society and make of this earth a new earth wherein dwells righteousness. Every man's work will eventually be tested in this fire. The fire will try every man's work of what sort it is. If you and I build into our walls wood, hay, and stubble, that fire will find it out, and the wall will come tumbling down.

credit: Tentmaker.org for that info

[Carl Unger]

Can I just add that I want this topic closed before it reaches a full page.
I don't want this thing to go off topic. I created the topic especially so people could express their comments.
When it goes past the 1st page and if you still have any questions about the article then please email me at carlunger@gmail.com - Thank You

[Mister Emu]

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