Which Son is Jesus? (Jesus Christ, Creator, Earth, Messiah, virgin)

[michel]

Originally Posted by MusicProducer

You need to read the Old Testament to have an understanding that GOD made a Covenant with the Children of Israel and the Stranger that journeyed with the Children of Israel.

MusicProducer, which Old Testament Covenant are you referring to?

Adamic Covenant, Noahic Covenant, Abrahamic Covenant, Mosiac Covenant, Davidic Covenant, or New Covenant?

The reason I'm asking is because I want to know if it was a uni-lateral or bi-lateral covenant you're referring to.

I know what you mean by the 'children of Israel and the stranger'. That's a reference to the Egyptians that went with the Israelites when they left Egypt - (Numbers 11:4) - but I'm wondering which covenant you're referring to that was broken.

We Christians currently are living under the uni-lateral New Covenant of Jeremiah 31:31 that was extended to the Gentiles (us) through the Jews (them) at Jesus' death on the Cross.

Only God Himself can break that one.

[MusicProducer]

Originally Posted by AV1611

MusicProducer, which Old Testament Covenant are you referring to?

Adamic Covenant, Noahic Covenant, Abrahamic Covenant, Mosiac Covenant, Davidic Covenant, or New Covenant?

The reason I'm asking is because I want to know if it was a uni-lateral or bi-lateral covenant you're referring to.

I know what you mean by the 'children of Israel and the stranger'. That's a reference to the Egyptians that went with the Israelites when they left Egypt - (Numbers 11:4) - but I'm wondering which covenant you're referring to that was broken.

We Christians currently are living under the uni-lateral New Covenant of Jeremiah 31:31 that was extended to the Gentiles (us) through the Jews (them) at Jesus' death on the Cross.

Only God Himself can break that one.

Your concept of Gentiles living under the New Covenant is an elusion Servants of Jesus have created in order to hide the fact that they are the people and religion that destroyed the fist House of GOD. It is an elusion to hide the fact that Israel and Judah were Judged by GOD and you were that Judgment, you where the Arm of the LORD. It is to hide the fact that the only religion on earth that creates an Army against GOD is the concepts of Jesus and his followers. It is to hide that fact that the Army of Gog, on that day, will be comprised mostly of Servants of Jesus. The Army of Gog must manifest because the LORD has Spoken it. This is the stipulations of the New Covenant and as you can see, it applies to Israel and Judah, not Gentiles. Choosing to be a gentile or heathen is of your own free will.

31: Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

33: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34: And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

I haven’t meet a Servant of Jesus yet that was able to regurgitate all of the Old Testament LAWs through memory nor because it is in their heart. As a matter of fact most Servants of Jesus I have conversed with don’t even know who the GOD of Israel is, let alone realize that HE has a Doctrine.

[michel]

Originally Posted by MusicProducer

I haven’t meet a Servant of Jesus yet that was able to regurgitate all of the Old Testament LAWs through memory nor because it is in their heart.

Then you haven't met Jack VanImpe, aka, the Walking Bible.

[michel]

Originally Posted by MusicProducer

Your concept of Gentiles living under the New Covenant is an elusion Servants of Jesus have created in order to hide the fact that they are the people and religion that destroyed the fist House of GOD.

Oh yeah? I just made that up? And it just happens to coincide with Jeremiah 31:31? That's interesting.

[michel]

Originally Posted by Mister Emu

Which son is He? The only begotten one.

I say what Mr Emu says.

[michel]

Originally Posted by MusicProducer

Your concept of Gentiles living under the New Covenant is an elusion Servants of Jesus have created in order to hide the fact that they are the people and religion that destroyed the fist House of GOD. It is an elusion to hide the fact that Israel and Judah were Judged by GOD and you were that Judgment, you where the Arm of the LORD. It is to hide the fact that the only religion on earth that creates an Army against GOD is the concepts of Jesus and his followers. It is to hide that fact that the Army of Gog, on that day, will be comprised mostly of Servants of Jesus. The Army of Gog must manifest because the LORD has Spoken it. This is the stipulations of the New Covenant and as you can see, it applies to Israel and Judah, not Gentiles. Choosing to be a gentile or heathen is of your own free will.

I hate to interrupt your 'Army of Gog' speech, but I'm still kinda wondering which Old Testament covenant you said was broken.

[MusicProducer]

Originally Posted by AV1611

I hate to interrupt your 'Army of Gog' speech, but I'm still kinda wondering which Old Testament covenant you said was broken.

which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:


That one

[michel]

Originally Posted by MusicProducer

which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
That one

Okay, MusicProducer, I agree with you. Yes, Israel is God's wife, metaphorically speaking; and it hurt God very much when she went after other idols. But please don't lay that on the 'mixt multitude' that came out of Egypt with Israel. Yes, Moses had an Ethiopean wife in Numbers 12, but she was Ethiopian - not Egyptian (not that it would have made a difference). And God punished Moses' brother Aaron and his sister Miriam for contending with Moses about it too.

But back to Israel. God put His 'wife' away for a time, but He never divorced her and 'married' us Christians. She is still His wife to this day.

And we Christians are, metaphorically speaking, Jesus' bride.