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scott you are ignoring most of the old testament where god describes his essence his wants of man and his desires that he wishes man to fulfill.

you are of course ignoring the Christs teachings because you don't believe him to be god

and you must ignore the Quran because it negates your own faith


Ezekiel 39:7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.


Matthew 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.


In the Quran, we read that Allah is Compassionate and Merciful. He is Kind, Loving, and Wise. He is the Creator, the Sustainer, the Healer. He is the One who Guides, the One who Protects, the One who Forgives. There are traditionally ninety nine names, or attributes, that Muslims use to describe Allah's nature.
There are said to be one hundred names of God in the Qur'an but the last one is not revealed. It is reserved until after the revelation of the Qur'an.

Son of God does not mean God the Son.

What is the import of your quote from Ezekiel, it certainly has no bearing on your claim.

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There are said to be one hundred names of God in the Qur'an but the last one is not revealed. It is reserved until after the revelation of the Qur'an.

Son of God does not mean God the Son.
take it up with a christian Scott you must know they beleive in the trinity
What is the import of your quote from Ezekiel, it certainly has no bearing on your claim.

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the quote from Ezekial is one of hundreds in the old testement where god is making it quite clear who he is how he should be worshipped and by whom.
i used it to point out that the "hebrew" god is very much a god of the "hebrews" he is not a god to be ignored nor disobeyed he takes an active interest in "his" people
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Show me in the gospels, in the words of Jesus where He claims to BE God. When you've done that, I'll grant your point.

I'm a sola scriptura kinda guy on this particular subject.

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Show me in the gospels, in the words of Jesus where He claims to BE God. When you've done that, I'll grant your point.

I'm a sola scriptura kinda guy on this particular subject.

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good point , but my point is christians prey to him as God he is their God or part and parcel of their God
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good point , but my point is christians prey[sic] to him as God he is their God or part and parcel of their God
And my point is that anyone's mental image of God is their own individual image capable of being grossly mistaken.

An individual's mistake does not bind me or anyone else other than that individual. God is what He is not what you or I or a trinitarian would wish to make Him be. Why don't you get that point?

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And my point is that anyone's mental image of God is their own individual image capable of being grossly mistaken.

An individual's mistake does not bind me or anyone else other than that individual. God is what He is not what you or I or a trinitarian would wish to make Him be. Why don't you get that point?

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that is my point scott in the mind of a christian is a god

in the mind of a muslim is a god

in the mind of a jew is a god

then according to you anything Bahuallah has said is in his mind too, or is the only revelation you accept is the one that comes of your own prophet , just like jews ,christians and muslims in fact. like all religious groups you only accept your own groups revelations as coming from God

Throughout the long years of exile He endured, Bahá'u'lláh revealed divinely inspired passages equivalent to over 100 volumes. This revelation comprisesmystical writings , social and ethical teachings , laws and ordinances, and a fearless proclamation of His message to the kings and rulers of the world, including Napoleon III, Queen Victoria, Pope Pius IX, the Shah of Persia, Kaiser Wilhelm I of Germany, the Emperor Franz Joseph of Austria, and others.

Bahá'u'lláh: Manifestation of God (Baha'u'llah,Bahaullah)
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