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Old 07-17-2008, 05:53 PM
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We seem to be forgetting that we are ALL extensions of God, or the Father, and can claim as much Divinity as Jesus himself. Remember that Jesus told his followers that we are to be one with him as he was one with the Father. He also says that we, or the followers of the teachings of Jesus, will do even greater things than he. "Be still, and know that I AM God."
If you can show me where Jesus says those words, I'll be still.
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Old 07-17-2008, 06:05 PM
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John 17:21, "That all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me."

John 14:12, "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father."

Jesus did not say this one, but it is part of the Old Testament scripture. Psalm 46:10, "Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth."
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John 17:21, "That all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me."

John 14:12, "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father."

Jesus did not say this one, but it is part of the Old Testament scripture. Psalm 46:10, "Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth."
Chash v halela/God forbid, to imply he did!

Todah rabah.
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Chash v halela/God forbid, to imply he did!

Todah rabah.
Sorry Ronald, but I am not sure what you are trying to say here...It has went way over my head, my friend.
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Old 07-18-2008, 06:05 PM
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I know that there are a good many christians out their who believe that those who follow the jewish religion need to be saved because they do not worship Jesus. So, quick question:

Jesus is God(YHWH). It seems to me that we are worshipping the same deity. Am I correct? Why or why not?
Abraham was promised to inherit the world. He had two sons which one of these sons would also inherit this same promise. The one of faith, not of the law.
Christ said that he who is a servant does not inherit the things of his master but only a son. He who sins is in bondage ( servant) not a son. Only the free will inherit the promises of God. If we put to death the works of the flesh by Gods spirit, promised to those who believe in Christ we are free indeed. Hope this helps
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Old 07-25-2008, 07:46 AM
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John 17:21, "That all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me."

John 14:12, "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father."

Jesus did not say this one, but it is part of the Old Testament scripture. Psalm 46:10, "Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth."
The fact that He has to pray for it indicates that it is not easily attained. The gate is narrow and few find it.
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:04 AM
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The fact that He has to pray for it indicates that it is not easily attained. The gate is narrow and few find it.

Rubbish.......


The fact that he has to pray for it means he's not God......
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The fact that he has to pray for it means he's not God......
Not, in fact, according to the Trinitarian interpretation. The Word becomes flesh- becomes a man to men, for men. He who lives for the Father takes up the human fabric and does not look away from the Father so that man can look to the Father through him with and in him (to use a prayer from our Liturgy).

In Christ human beings are offered a share in this dynamic of love that occurs within God. God is communion. God is life. God is continual giving, outpouring and receiving. God is love. Through Him who has become human for us, we enter into his life prayer which is the prayer par excellence- that is, we enter into his eternal communion with the Father.
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Not, in fact, according to the Trinitarian interpretation.

Well that's the problem right there isn't it?.....It's not a fact according to the interpretation of others. Most popular interpretation doesn't mean fact.....it's just opinion held by the majority. So far out of the four gospels....there is no information to show that Yeshua saw himself as God or taught his followers he was.......
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