Why the difference? (Jesus, contradiction, mission, God, Old Testament)

ThisShouldMakeSense · #1 06-27-2005, 08:15 AM

Someone made an interesting point to me on the weekend? He said that the God of the OT is different to the God of the NT. ie, OT says and Eye for and Eye and in the NT its 'Turn the other cheek'? He was vengeful in the OT but very loving in the NT? What do you think? What would you say if someone said that to you? any offers accepted! Thanks!

Jayhawker Soule · #2 06-27-2005, 08:19 AM

See Demiurge.

Fluffy · #3 06-27-2005, 08:56 AM

I would think that such contradictions exist within the testaments and if you wanted to make such a distinction it would perhaps be more correct to not label each testament with its own god. In other words there are instances in the OT of God acting in a "Turn the other cheek" kind of way as vice versa for the NT.

I will admit that there does seem to be a general inclination for the OT God to be more removed, strict and vengeful compared to the 'more cuddly' version which the NT presents. These stereotypes are not constant though.

ThisShouldMakeSense · #4 06-27-2005, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy

I would think that such contradictions exist within the testaments and if you wanted to make such a distinction it would perhaps be more correct to not label each testament with its own god. In other words there are instances in the OT of God acting in a "Turn the other cheek" kind of way as vice versa for the NT.

I will admit that there does seem to be a general inclination for the OT God to be more removed, strict and vengeful compared to the 'more cuddly' version which the NT presents. These stereotypes are not constant though.

mmm....good point. i mean take us for example. if someone were to follow me around for a year and write down all the ways i acted, i'm sure it'll show different sides of me. it would be accurate too. thanks...

EnhancedSpirit · #5 06-27-2005, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ThisShouldMakeSense

Someone made an interesting point to me on the weekend? He said that the God of the OT is different to the God of the NT. ie, OT says and Eye for and Eye and in the NT its 'Turn the other cheek'? He was vengeful in the OT but very loving in the NT? What do you think? What would you say if someone said that to you? any offers accepted! Thanks!

In the old testament, God was sometimes misinterpreted by the heart of man.

The eye for an eye speech is a description of how the law of karma works, means the same as you reap what you so.
It is not permission to seek revenge. God said in the old testament that revenge was for him alone, but the people of the time seemed to ignore that part and take it upon themselves to get back at those who had trespassed against them, therefore creating further waves of negative karmic. Part of Jesus' purpose was to clear up these misconceptions, he said that the people had forgotten God's laws and replaced them with the laws of man.

Halcyon · #6 06-27-2005, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Deut. 32.8

See Demiurge.

The demiurge is the most 'logical' explaination, for me anyway.

Jayhawker Soule · #7 06-27-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

The demiurge is the most 'logical' explaination, for me anyway.

I am not surprised.

Scuba Pete · #8 06-27-2005, 02:37 PM

God has not changed.

We have and so God's reponse to us has changed.

Jayhawker Soule · #9 06-27-2005, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NetDoc

God has not changed. We have and so God's reponse to us has changed.

So, we are somehow different than those who lived, say, 2300 years ago. What changed?