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Old 06-11-2005, 06:06 AM
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Yeah, because God was there for the Jews during world war 2, wasn't he?
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Yeah, because God was there for the Jews during world war 2, wasn't he?
sorry i am a bit thick , i thought this was about babylon the great am i missing something
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What I mean to say is that God will never lift his hand to help anyone ever again. So I don't seee how this Babylon is going to fall, that's all.
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Babylon was a city built by Nimrod a long time ago. The name is the Greek form of Babel. Anyways Nimrod laid the foundation of a great city in which other mighty kings and empires would built upon. The name means "The Gate of God", and known as the birth of false religions. In the Bible, the languages of men were dished out due to a spiritual discord on a high level. Babylon represents every city, country and kingdom except the Christs'. The UN is a good example because its a large representation of the worlds different kingdoms. In revelations Christ is speaking of his return setting up his own kingdom as the old "Babylons" fall away.
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What I mean to say is that God will never lift his hand to help anyone ever again. So I don't seee how this Babylon is going to fall, that's all.
Babylon has already fallen in the fact that she has no hold on Gods people in a spiritual sense , but she is yet to be destroyed , just as the bible tells us ,nothing can stop Jehovahs purpose from being fullfilled ,his king is directing things from the heavens and nothing can touch that kingdom as it is in heaven.(very exciting dont you think)
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Babylon was a city built by Nimrod a long time ago. The name is the Greek form of Babel. Anyways Nimrod laid the foundation of a great city in which other mighty kings and empires would built upon. The name means "The Gate of God", and known as the birth of false religions. In the Bible, the languages of men were dished out due to a spiritual discord on a high level. Babylon represents every city, country and kingdom except the Christs'. The UN is a good example because its a large representation of the worlds different kingdoms. In revelations Christ is speaking of his return setting up his own kingdom as the old "Babylons" fall away.
yes the ancient Babylon was the seat of all false religion as you say, that is why the babylon the great in the book of revelation is false religion today , i think i am right to say that it means confusion and that is what false religion has done it has confused people
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Revelation has striking metaphors and the harsh words are a reaction to the authority of the Christian Church that was developing at the time. Babylon is referring to Rome and the Bishops of Rome who had gained their power through the dragon. This subject cannot be examine out of context.

As to America being Babylon, its very formation was an escape from the Roman Catholic and Anglical Churches in Europe. This very forum owes its existance to the formation of our great country. Therefore, we are not the Babylon that Revelation is talking about.

Gotta go to work, but this is a subject I have been studying for quite some time and this thread interests me a great deal. See ya later.

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Mystery, Babylon the Great, the Whore of Babylon, etc. is the false religious system that will dominate the world during the first three and a half years of the Tribulation. During the last half of the tribulation, the world will worship the Beast, or the Antichrist. A very detailed explanation of this can be found in the book "Revelation Unveiled", by Tim LaHaye.
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Hi Joe,

So, nothing has happened in 1900 years of history?? We are still looking to the future from the year 2000? What is often overlooked is that it was their future from the 1st century CE and it is mostly our past.

John of Patmos was dealing with the events in his own time and not writing a prophecy for people living 2000 years later. The subject of the Book of Revelation is about the Christian Church that existed in the 1st century CE and predicted the future of the Church. Which church gained power and authority? It is the church of Rome. Babylon is Rome and the Central, or Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon.

It is common for people to assume that this is a product of my beliefs or may be the results of some kind of anti-catholic bias. NOT TRUE. I have given objective study to this book and this resulted in an understanding of what it is saying. My interpretation of Revelation is based upon what Jesus and John have portrayed in this prophecy.

Before I go any farther I want everyone to know that I am not exercising any kind of agenda based upon my beliefs, opinions, religion, etc. I am representing what the book is saying and thus the discussion should be whether someone disagrees with this book. Revelation is not a feel good prophecy and and it is quite harsh in its criticism of those who claimed authority over Christianity from the 1st century onwards.

I know that at this point I don't think anyone is ready to examine what chapter 13 has to say.
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Babylon was open to all religion to come together and share their beliefs with each other to unify all races and religions by means of the tower of Babel.

The belief was not shared by christians...
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