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Old 05-19-2005, 09:17 PM
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Basically what I have always been told about this verse is that it's just to emphasize that God is not affected by time. He created this universe, and thus time, and as such it has no hold on him, it is irrelevant to him because he came frist. At least thats my 2 cents.
John 1:1-2 says
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1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning.
It seems the word preceded Genesis 1 where it says
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1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
concluding with
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31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.
The "word" was already out and the Word says "day". There is no mention of the duration of time between John 1's real beginning and Genesis 1 but the Word specifies "day". John 1 also confirms Psalm 90
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4 For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by,or like a watch in the night.
Even giving a very liberal interpretation of 1000 or 2000 years in a day and night, the Word is clear this was the duration of God's "day" Although God explains the definition later in the chrological Bible, the Word preceded Genesis, Moses' prayer, and the writng down of the prayer in Pslams. A day of creation must be 1000 (or 2000) years for Christians
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Old 05-19-2005, 09:26 PM
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John 1:1-2 says It seems the word preceded Genesis 1 where it says concluding with The "word" was already out and the Word says "day".
Man, I wish No*s was here..... I do believe that the lack of a definite article in the Greek "Was God" signifies predication rather than identification.... but I don't read a whole heck of a lot of Greek.

.... but heck, maybe "The Word" here is Jesus... hmmm
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A day of creation must be 1000 (or 2000) years
for SOME, but not ALL Christians.
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Old 05-19-2005, 09:27 PM
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I dont think so. I really think its just an attempt to make the creation story seem scientifically possible. The verse :


4 For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by,or like a watch in the night.
isnt meant to be taken literally, especially if its in pslams.
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Old 05-19-2005, 09:45 PM
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Man, I wish No*s was here..... I do believe that the lack of a definite article in the Greek "Was God" signifies predication rather than identification.... but I don't read a whole heck of a lot of Greek.

.... but heck, maybe "The Word" here is Jesus... hmmm
for SOME, but not ALL Christians.
Of course, pardon my inclusion
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Old 05-26-2005, 10:08 PM
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How God experiences time isn't really relevent unless you're trying to claim - as someone was in another thread - that the Creation took place in a literal 7 days as experienced by humans, because the bible states that it took 7 days, and when you have no other yardstick to go by, you're inclined to measure things based on your personal experience. But then you're placing human constraints on the almighty,who - as we all know - is beyond human constraints. Or he should be, if he's actually all that.
The 'thousand years as one day' reference I think just implies that God is not constrained by human time frames - as well he shouldn't be - and as Druidus said, is a nice, big, round number. God, I would imagine, is capable of experiencing time in whatever fashion he chooses...he's God.
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