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Old 04-21-2005, 05:41 PM
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Satan and the demons have always been cruel and dangerous. In early times Satan killed the livestock and servants of faithful Job. Then he killed Job’s ten children by causing "a great wind" to destroy the house they were in. After that Satan struck Job with "a malignant boil from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head."—Job 1:7-19; 2:7.





7 So Satan went out away from the person of Jehovah and struck Job with a malignant boil from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head



In Jesus’ day, the demons made some people speechless and blind. (Matthew







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Then Jehovah said to Satan: "Where do you come from?" At that Satan answered Jehovah and said: "From roving about in the earth and from walking about in it." 8 And Jehovah went on to say to Satan: "Have you set your heart upon my servant Job, that there is no one like him in the earth, a man blameless and upright, fearing God and turning aside from bad?" 9 At that Satan answered Jehovah and said: "Is it for nothing that Job has feared God? 10 Have not you yourself put up a hedge about him and about his house and about everything that he has all around? The work of his hands you have blessed, and his livestock itself has spread abroad in the earth. 11 But, for a change, thrust out your hand, please, and touch everything he has [and see] whether he will not curse you to your very face." 12 Accordingly Jehovah said to Satan: "Look! Everything that he has is in your hand. Only against him himself do not thrust out your hand!" So Satan went out away from the person of Jehovah.






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Now it came to be the day when his sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in the house of their brother the firstborn. 14 And there came a messenger to Job, and he proceeded to say: "The cattle themselves happened to be plowing and the she-asses were grazing at the side of them 15 when the Sa·be´ans came making a raid and taking them, and the attendants they struck down with the edge of the sword; and I got to escape, only I by myself, to tell you."






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While this one was yet speaking that one came and proceeded to say: "The very fire of God fell from the heavens and went blazing among the sheep and the attendants and eating them up; and I got to escape, only I by myself, to tell you."




17 While that one was yet speaking another one came and proceeded to say: "The Chal·de´ans made up three bands and went dashing against the camels and taking them, and the attendants they struck down with the edge of the sword; and I got to escape, only I by myself, to tell you."

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For he is not a man like me [that] I should answer him,




That we should come together in judgment.



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There exists no person to decide between us,




That he should put his hand upon both of us.

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He is uncovering deep things from the darkness,




And he brings forth to the light deep shadow;

They tormented one man and made him slash himself with stones. (Mark 5:5) They also caused a boy to cry out, dashed him to the ground, and "violently convulsed him."—Luke 9:42.

Today, Satan and the demons are as murderous as ever. In fact, their evil activity has increased since they were thrown out of heaven. Reports from around the world testify to their cruelty. They plague some people with illness. Others they harass at night, depriving them of sleep or giving them terrible dreams. Others they abuse sexually. Still others they drive to insanity, murder, or suicide.

Lintina, who lives in Suriname, relates that a demon, or


. 5 And continually, night and day, he was crying out in the tombs and in the mountains and slashing himself with stones.

Bad spirit, killed 16 members of her family and tormented her physically and mentally for 18 years. From firsthand experience she states that the demons "enjoy torturing their unwilling victims until death."

But Jehovah is able to protect his servants from Satan’s attacks.—Proverbs 18:10.






10 The name of Jehovah is a strong tower. Into it the righteous runs and is given protection.



In the past, the demons made some people sick and threw others into convulsions




The demons today cause some people to be violent; they harass others at night, giving them terrible dreams



If you will like more information about God's word and what it says about evil spirits I'll be glad to consider more Bible information.


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So what? God explicitly allowed him to do that. And even if summing up all those works of the Devil, it is insignificant compared to all atrocities that Yahwe ordered in the OT.
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The Devil was doing what he does best.

Without him, you Christians wouldnt even be here.

Give him a break, will you?
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The Devil was doing what he does best.

Without him, you Christians wouldnt even be here.

Give him a break, will you?

That is not what the Word of God says. Satan will have no quarter. He has been defeated, poor chap.

According to the fifth verse of the first chapter of Job, Job feared that his children were not properly respecting God. Job was afraid that his children were sinning, that they might have separated themselves from God in their hearts, that they were not living as they ought to have been. So Job, in order to safeguard them, offered burnt offerings continually for every one of his children. It was Job that allowed the bad things to happen to him and his family. Not God. Not Satan. It was Job. Job's fear and worry was so potent that it broke the hedge allowing Satan to get into his life. Job was responsible. His negative belief aka fear was responsible. How detrimental is fear? When Job feared, he was not believing God's Word. Job is clearly the one responsible. How can Anders blame God or even Satan for the "atrocites" in the OT? This is a spineless cop out. People are responsible for the spiritual things that happen in their lives. When one is blessed by God it is because of their own doings or their own believing. When one is held captive by Satan it is because of their own choices and or their own negative believing.

Job 3:25: For the thing which I greatly feared is come upon me, and that which I was afraid of is come unto me.

Proverbs 23:7: ...as he thinketh in his heart, so is he.

Mark 11:23 ...shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

This law is our believing, positive or negative, determines our condition. This is a law.
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