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Old 04-07-2005, 02:04 PM
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Linus is correct. Much of the OT finds fulfillment in the person and life of Jesus Christ. Many of the prophecies deal with him specifically, or are mentioned in the NT from a "hindsight" viewpoint. Since the Christian life is modeled on the life of Christ, most Christians spend their time reading in the NT. It is a crying shame that so many fail to continue reading and learning from the OT as well. While I do not claim to know the OT backwards and forwards, I'm pretty well versed and will do the best that I can to answer questions about the OT from the OT, and avoid references only to the NT. I can't promise you perfect answers, only the best effort I have.
A couple of things to keep in mind from the beginning however:
1) Concerning the law of Moses, it is no longer adhered to because of Jesus Christ. There are very good OT reasons for why the law of Moses was put in to place, but as of now, the reason it is not followed is because of Jesus. He did not change the law, he fulfilled it.

2) Keep in mind that when discussing the law, there is moral law, civil law, and rabbinical law. Many of the rabbinical laws ended with the dissolving of the Holy of Holies when Christ died and made God accessible to man. The Civil laws are the ones most commonly pointed to to discredit the OT and NT by saying that Jesus was wrong by disputing the very laws he came to fulfill. The civil laws however were for a specific place and time in history (which is why they make no sense in our day and time). The Moral law (the law Jesus came to fulfill and did, the laws the pharisees and sadduccees were so concerned about, the one Jesus made them eat crow on constantly, the one for which they killed him) this law has never been dissolved, it is still in place, and was perfectly fulfilled in the life of Christ. The 10 commandments were moral law, Stoning a rebellious child was under civil law, wearing certain types of clothing was a civil law, sacrificing animals was a rabbinical law. These are just a few examples, but they show why the disputes erupt around the law being held to by "born-agains" and in part being discarded by the same "born-agains".

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Rabbinical law does not appear in the OT. Rabbinic law came a little later, and it comprises the Jewish Midrashim and other rabbinic commentary which is not in the NT. Rabbinic commentary appears with the Exile and perhaps later as the synnogouge became the center of Jewish worship rather than the Temple. I think that you are confusing rabbinic law with ceremonial (aka ritualistic) law, and doing so because the rabbis were religious leaders along with preists in Second Temple Judaism. There are several versions of rabbinic law because the rabbis developed influential schools of thought within Judaism, which is why we see in the NT that the Pharasees and Saducees had differing views on divorce and the afterlife.
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AE, point taken. Ceremonial, aka ritualistic law carried out by the Rabbis. Not rabbinical law. Thanks for the differentiation. Back to the thread, the differences of law within the OT are what spark the controversy of keeping parts of the law, and throwing other parts aside.
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Yes, Christians interpret the law through Jesus and his apostles, which is why Christians will give NT passages when talking about the OT. In short, Chrisitans confess that we have a continuous revelation which directly compliments the OT. Unlike other religions which claim to be an extention of Abraham's faith (I have Mormonism, JWs, Christian Scientists in mind here), Christianity can boast a consistent theology between the OT and NT, based upon the teachings of the NT. No other religion can claim a consistent tie with Judaism - of course Jews consider our interpretation as the highest form of blasphemy - in that case, no one blasphemes like us (eg, still upholding to the OT while claiming that Jesus is God)!
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