Jesus is not God (attending, doctrine, church, scriptures, bible)

[SportyAngel2oo6]

To fully understand how the bible does truly refer to Jesus as the son of God (and in the trinity you know that the son, father, and holy ghost are one essence), you have to understand the jewish culture at that time.When you are reading the bible, you may see something that, in our day and age, doesnt seem important or abnormal, but back then it was. For example, read this passage about Jesus talking to the Jews critizing him for working on the sabbath "...But he answered them, 'My Father is working, and I Myself am working.' For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because he not only was breaking the sabbath, but also was calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God." (John 5:16-18)
We might not see the connection but if we study the culture some you will see that Jews never referred to God as "my father" (unless is was my father in heaven) but rather "our father" because by saying mine Jesus claimed he was his true son.
Also, Jesus says "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30) which claims diety and oneness with God. The word "one" that is used in the greek does not mean one in person or purpose but rather one in essence and nature. after Jesus said this, the jews took up stones to stone him, which shows they understand what he really meant.
Jesus also claimed to have the power to forgive sins. You may say that you too can forgive people but it is not the same. In Judaism Only God can truly forgive people's sins.
Here are few other of Jesus' claims of diety... "If you knew Me, you would know my Father also" (John 8:19); "He who beholds me beholds the One who sent me." (John 12:45); "He who hates Me, hates My Father also." (John 15:23); "All may honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him." (John 5:23) These references show that Jesus considered himself equal with God.
Lastly, When Jesus is before the high preist during his trial, he is asked "'Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?' And Jesus said, 'I am; and you shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.' And tearing his clothers, the high priest said, 'What further need do we have of witnesses? You have heard the blasphemy; how does it seem to you?' And they all condemned Him to be deserving of death." (Mark 14:60-64) So Jesus obviously claimed to be the Son of God, and in turn based on the trinity, the same essence of God. He was crucified for blasphemy and he was risen again in 3 days to show his mastery over death.
So in the Bible, which is a historal document, Jesus does claim to be God.

Jessica

[SportyAngel2oo6]

sorry for mispells lol deity*

[true blood]

God does not get tired or hungry. Jesus did. Jesus set aside his own will in order to do the Father's will. God can not be tempted. Jesus was tempted in all things.

Jesus could forgive sins because God was in Christ reconciling the world.

The arguement is futile however because if one would ever meet Jesus it would be like meeting God.

[Dinogrrl]

So wait...are you saying that Jesus is or isn't God?

[true blood]

Christ Jesus is the second Adam. The Scriptuures also indicate that God's will is a seperate and distinct will from Jesus Christ's. Matthew 26:39, 26:42, Luke 22:42, John 5:30 and Matthew 20:23 deomonstrate that Jesus Christ carried out his Father's will while putting his own wishes aside. According to the Word of God, God said Jesus Christ was His Son. Other witnesses proclaimed the same: John the Baptist, all the gospel writers, Simon Peter, Nathanael, the centurion, God's angles, the blind man, Martha, Philip, the Ethipian eunuch, Paul, the revilers and mockers at the cross, devil spirits, the high priest Caiaphas, disciples in the boat on Galilee, elders of the people, and others including Jesus Christ himself.


"One" is the Greek word hen, neuter, meaning one in purpose, not one person which would be heis, masculine. This is the climax of Jesus' claim of oneness with his Father, and this oneness is of purpose. Since the Greek word hen is used, not heis, then "one" does not mean "equal to" but signifies "unity of purpose" Consider an isosceles triangle, it has two angles which contain the exact same number of degrees. Even though equal, the angles are not identical.

John 14:28 and I Corinthians 11:3 indicate that God is superior to Jesus Christ.

Another difference between God and Jesus Christ regards that of knowledge. God is omniscient, but Jesus Christ knew only those things which he ascertained from his knowledge of the Scriptures and from the rest of the senses world, plus that which God revealed to him. Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

A son born into a family of a king has many of the same basic privileges as his father, but yet the king represents the greater of the two. The father is always greater than the son, but yet their privileges are many times equal because of the father's power and position to make them so. Further, God exhorts us "Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus." Jesus Christ thought it not robbery to be equal with God. So if we let these same thoughts be in us that Jesus Christ had, then we bring ourselves up to that level of equality as sons of God. We could say if questioned by Jesus as his disciples were, "But whom say ye that I am?" Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.