Question (Jesus, Moses, hell, prophet, Abraham)

[arthra]

A couple of things about the Baha'i view of Qur'anic verses...

One title of Prophet Muhammad was Seal of the Prophets.

We accept the verse about the Seal as the sealing of the age of prophecy while the dispensations of the Bab and Baha'u'llah we feel were the fulfillment of the prophetic age...also the Sealing verse uses the term Nabi which refers to prophets with inspiration.. It doesn't use Rasuli which are Prophets that bring a new book and dispensation.

Regarding the verse about "Islam" being what was chosen for mankind...note that the word Islam means surrendering to God Almighty...

Arabic 'islm, submission, from 'aslama, to surrender, resign oneself, from Syriac 'alem, to make peace, surrender, derived stem of lem, to be complete; see lm in Semitic roots

It also is said that all the Prophets were "Muslims", that is they all surrendered to the Will of God.... this is true, all true religion is surrendering to God's Will. Ask yourself the question: Is there any true religion that doesn't submit to God's Will or is incomplete for it's time????

Unlike most religions you'll find, we Baha'is acknowledge Islam and the Qur'an as having a Divine Source and that it was complete for it's time. You will never find Baha'is supporting a site like "Answering Islam" or of being prejudiced against Prophet Muhammad.

- Art

[mohamedhassan]

ya is it possible to move this to general discussion. B/c i don't want admin to get more ****** off at me lol. thanks

[Popeyesays]

Originally Posted by mohamedhassan

ya is it possible to move this to general discussion. B/c i don't want admin to get more ****** off at me lol. thanks

nabbiyyih khataam is the term in the verse, and the verse was specifically at the time Muhammad needed to make sure it was clear that His adopted son did not inherit anything from Muhammad and cloud the succession of Ali. Khataam in particular means "Seal" like the seal upon a document or the Seal upon a ring. In this sense it does not mean the end of anything but rather the guarantor and warrantor of the Prophets was Muhammad. Muhammad was the ornamental Seal upon the Hand of God, so to speak. `Khatim' means closure and an end to a succession of events. They're from the same root, of course, but have very different meanings.

Regards,
Scott

[arthra]

Muhammad Hassan,

You know that our view and interpretation differs from the standard views you will find in say traditional sources... It could be said that Muslim views of the Bible are also different from Christian traditions... and Christian ideas of the Torah differ from those of their Jewish friends...

As long as you just are inquiring about the Baha'i views on these things I don't think there is any problem...

- Art

[mohamedhassan]

Well i want to continue this so can one of the mods move this topic to General Disscussions?

[BruceDLimber]

Hi again!

And in addition to what has been said above, there is a sense in which EVERY Divine Messenger is the First and the Last, the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, and the Seal!

Best, :-)

Bruce

[arthra]

Originally Posted by mohamedhassan

Well i want to continue this so can one of the mods move this topic to General Disscussions?

Why not just ask the question.... You know the Baha'is are a friendly sort and we can acknowledge some people have different views. I can tell you though that mere disputation can be a very idle thing...

- Art

[mohamedhassan]

I'm scaried Admin will think its a debate and ban be for the site lol

[arthra]

If you just have a few questions and would like to know more about Baha'i Faith that's why we're here.

But if you want to simply argue a point... that's why they have a Religious Debate Section:

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum...splay.php?f=15

Frankly I would prefer friendly discussion.

- Art