New Thread To Remind.... (Buddhism, beliefs, theist, God, Christians)

[Comet]

Well, all old threads on Monism seem to be gone to the sands of time. So it is that we live in the past alone as well as the future. Thus, I've decided to revive this area of discussion.

I'm sorry all the old posts are gone, there were a few good discussions there. Perhaps they will rear their heads again.... Thanks again to Todd and Michel (and others) for making this area to give me a home within the RF home!

Monism is to believe that there is but one. Unlike Monotheism and the like, I do not believe that a deity is the ultimate say in the universe/es. Unlike Substasial Monism (there is no ONE substance to things) and unlike Absolute Monism which would say there is but ONE (which I do not believe either); Attributive Monism is more of a Monistic perspective on things.

As to whether there are gods or a God, I find it irrelevant. I do not believe that this is the end and all knowing of things. Gods may have different insight to certain things and work together in a Pantheon/Panentheon, but it is what that is beyond them that makes them whole. I do not believe in one God, as the Christians/Muslims. That God believes in things such as good and evil and tells you to choose sides.

In the end of things shall one find the begining of things. To his right, he saw he sat to his left. When one looks forward, they only see what is behind. I could use a thousand pardoxes, but it is uncalled for...

There is but GOD. GOD is ALL, ONE, and NOTHING. GOD is that which is beyond the meaning of our senses, knowledge, etc... ALL as ONE as NOTHING as I say. That is what I believe. I do not believe in the dualitic ways.

There is no good or evil, it is a perspective. There is no right or wrong. Yet, all exist as ONE. They are not opposed to each other.... they are ONE as ALL in the NOTHING. As the Hindu Rig Veda spoke of the "being/nonbeing".

That is why I am an Attributive Monist..... not because I "attribute" the oneness to something. Nothing is something as well.... and I don't agree with the dualistic world in which we live. Yet, I do understand it from my studies. To me an Attributive Monist knows that there is no truth but of itself.... which is also falsehood. Thus, by the stance of perspective do I argue the attributive aspecpt; though some should call me absolute in that.

Confused? I thought so. Paradoxal Quandry? Perhaps. Yet, I understand what I mean.

One of the threads before we agrued mathematics. I posted the theory of how it is possible to divide by zero. Few got the point of that theory, as few understand Einstein or Planck. It is all in how one learns to see things..... I'll refrain from listing books, etc....

I refrain.... most don't care or understand, and fewer care to understand. The Western mind doesn't comprehend well and the Eastern is more prone to study that which is known to this way. If there is an Western mind that wishes to discuss this and understand better..... try Hinduism and Buddhism first.

[Guitar's Cry]

Originally Posted by Comet

There is but GOD. GOD is ALL, ONE, and NOTHING. GOD is that which is beyond the meaning of our senses, knowledge, etc... ALL as ONE as NOTHING as I say. That is what I believe. I do not believe in the dualitic ways.

I admit that I have not researched monism as much as I should, but I think this is the view of God as I see it. The problem is, I can't get away from the dualistic perspective.

What seperates an attributive monist from any other monist? What are the distinctions between monism and pantheism?

[Comet]

Originally Posted by Guitar's Cry

I admit that I have not researched monism as much as I should, but I think this is the view of God as I see it. The problem is, I can't get away from the dualistic perspective.

What seperates an attributive monist from any other monist? What are the distinctions between monism and pantheism?

2ndly: Pantheism deals in THEISM, in which... I am not a Theist by any means.... Panentheism intriges me, but then again... it is many making up a ONE.... it loses the NOTHING. I do not believe in the way of Gods.... While I may believe in them and follow some of their ways, I know that they ALL stem from the same place. That place is ONE and NOTHING as well...... perhaps that is where I differ to those who believe and follow such paths. As I said, gods/God is irrelevant to my beliefs.... yet, they can guide one.... Plus, I do not adhere to ANY god/gods... nor respect them all...

Other Monists and me.... I thought I explained. Maybe not well enough:

Unlike Substansial Monism (there is no ONE substance to things) and unlike Absolute Monism which would say there is but ONE (which I do not believe either); Attributive Monism is more of a Monistic perspective on things.

Most Monsists believe in ONE... beyond the God/gods..... I believe that all is ONE as ALL as NOTHING... big difference. Thus, attributive.... not attributed to a God or one of the gods..... attributed to the ONE which is of the NOTHING which made the ALL.

[Buttercup]

Originally Posted by Comet

Most Monsists believe in ONE... beyond the God/gods..... I believe that all is ONE as ALL as NOTHING... big difference. Thus, attributive.... not attributed to a God or one of the gods..... attributed to the ONE which is of the NOTHING which made the ALL.

I think my head is gonna explode.

[Angelfire]

Originally Posted by Buttercup

I think my head is gonna explode.

Me too. I thought I had everything figured out, after reading this lot I'm not sure now
that I ever believed anything. LOL

[UltraViolet]

Originally Posted by Angelfire

Me too. I thought I had everything figured out, after reading this lot I'm not sure now
that I ever believed anything. LOL

What's that?
You don't get it?
I'd gladly stay and explain it all for you...
but..... uhhh.....
I have to go and wash my socks now....

[lilithu]

Originally Posted by Comet

Well, all old threads on Monism seem to be gone to the sands of time. So it is that we live in the past alone as well as the future. Thus, I've decided to revive this area of discussion.

I'm sorry all the old posts are gone, there were a few good discussions there. Perhaps they will rear their heads again.... Thanks again to Todd and Michel (and others) for making this area to give me a home within the RF home!

They're not gone, Comet. Just change your settings within the forum to display from the "beginning." (Towards the left-hand bottom of the page.)

Originally Posted by Comet

I refrain.... most don't care or understand, and fewer care to understand. The Western mind doesn't comprehend well and the Eastern is more prone to study that which is known to this way. If there is an Western mind that wishes to discuss this and understand better..... try Hinduism and Buddhism first.

Some schools of Hinduism are monist. Some, like Buddhism, are non-dualist.

[doppelgänger]

Originally Posted by lilithu

non-dualist.

. . . Something seems . . . odd . . . about that word.